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![]() Chip Jones wrote: Also BTW, we had a trainee controller cause an operational error using this non-prescibed phraseology. His MIA was 4900. He had overflight traffic on radar at 6000 and a non-radar departure that he was issuing a full IFR clearance to. The departure was filed for 9000. As part of the detailed departure clearance with "CRAFT" and all that, he instructed the pilot to "Climb and maintain five thousand, FIVE" in an attempt to reinforce the 5000 assigned altitude portion of the full clearance. The pilot, doing the full clearance readback, read back "Climb and maintain five thousand five, blah blah blah..." The apprentice controller missed the semantical difference between his phraseology and the pilot's readback and the departure aircraft got with the overflight. You ought to come here. We have pretty much made the MVA map irrelavant. We have had the same guy, the SAME GUY, get three airplanes below the MVA three times in the last 6 months. The investstigation reveals that the aircraft was not within 2000/3 of the ground or any obstacles and it goes away. |
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