Co-pilot error caused AA 587 crash

Al Gerharter wrote:

I think this was their first opportunity to land. The aircraft was well
outside the envelope when a recovery ensued. I don't know what would have
happened to an airbus. This thing had shoe prints on the instrument panel.
Al

On the landing question, I was struck by this section, on page 5.

"At 1018:42, Flight 006 requested clearance to climb. Oakland ARTCC
initially cleared it to climb to FL 200, and, at 1019:17, Flight 006
told the ARTCC that "we can control the aircraft." Oakland ARTCC asked
the flight if it wanted to divert to San Francisco, and, at 1019:49,
Flight 006 answered "Condition normal now," and that it would continue
to Los Angeles."

In respect of the evelope issue, my memory said that the upset was
caused by turbulence. In this case, it appears to have been crew
mishandling. In the circumstances, I have to wonder whether an FBW
aircraft would have got into the position of needing an outside the
envelope recovery in the first place.

Sylvia.