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Old November 10th 04, 12:05 AM
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Nor does it matter if the plane was built before ARROW (whatever
that
means). He was wrong on all counts.



ARROW are the current on-board-document rules:

No, it is now AROW and has been since 1996.



Yes, it is AROW for USA domestic flights, because the FCC has chosen

not
to
enforce Station Licenses nor Operators Licenses within the USA.

But they cannot extend such a waiver beyond their own borders and must
comply with the International agreements, so it is still ARROW

(officially)
for cross-border flights.


Technically, it is only ARROW for cross-border flights *into* the US.
Canada, most Caribbean countries, and Mexico no longer require radio
licenses. Even so, you could technically get around ARROW by simply
turning
off your radio when crossing the border. Once on the other side of the
border, you are safe in turning it back on. :-)



That is not correct.

Canada does not require a station license within its borders, just as the
USA does not within its borders. But the Canadian rule only affects
Canadians in Canada, not Canadians flying abroad, nor foreign nationals
flying into Canada.

The same applies for the USA rule... it only applies to US nationals

within
the USA.

But any Canadian-registered flight from Canada to the USA (or any other
country) requires a license under Canadian (and International) rules, just
as any US-registered flight from the US to Canada (or any other country)
requires a license under USA (and International) rules.

Canada and the USA were trying to negotiate a reciprocal agreement to

avoid
that requirement, but based on the last announcement that I saw, it was
never signed, and the official position remains that the license is
required.

The license requirement does not necessarily have anything to do with the
wishes of the individual countries; It is an international requirement

for
International flights. And until the two countries get their act together
and sign the agreement, they are supposed to abide by the international
agreement...ie: a station license *is* required.

Now, having said that, whether they choose to actually *enforce* the rule

is
another issue. However, Canadians have been warned by their Radio

authority
that their station license paperwork should be up-to-date upon entering

the
USA... because of the rule, but also in part because of 9/11 and the extra
level of ID that the license will provide.


Certainly a radio station license is a guaranteed way to stop terrorism.


 




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