secret advice

"houstondan" wrote in message
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ok...as to flying c-150/172 type aircraft, what can you do, really,
that's fun and won't hurt the airframe? at 80mph, can you really hurt
the machine with full control deflection? i guess that's what i'm
asking ... how much can you "yank and bank" these things before bad
things happen? i can get a real good feel for the slow flight
characteristics by trying it at altitude. a can't think of any way to
test airframe without testing to destruction....mine. exactly how do
you do those rolls???

i know i'm begging to hear a lot of "never do that", well-meaning
warnings but there has to be some tribal wisdom on "how much can you
do?"

According to my logbook, in N8376M, a C-150 Aerobat, I've done loops,
Immelmans, snap-rolls, slow rolls, spins, hammerheads, and Cuban-S. In a
glider, I've done loops and slow rolls.
Every solo manuever was preceded by at least two and most of the
time three exercises with an instructor.
By the way, the spin is the only manuever initiated at less than
full-throttle and 120K. You can do a lot of yanking and banking (most often
resulting in a spin) at lower speeds, but the rest require significant
energy.
I did enough aerobatics to determine that I wasn't ready to invest
the $$$$$$ in the kind of airplane required to pursue the sport. It was fun,
there was some excitement, but my sweetie pie.... well, let's just say she
took a dim view.
Dig into the FARs and find the sections that relate to more than
60-degree bank and 15(?)-degree pitch, before you do anything.