2-33 to 1-26

People have mentioned spins when discussing the 1-26 both here and in previous
threads over the last couple of years. I got my rating in the 2-33, then spent
some hours in the 1-26, and have also recently had a handful of flights in the
Grob 103A.

I mentioned to the CFIGs/DPEs where I fly the comments made by people on this
group about the 1-26 spinning easily--this was met with various reactions,
though NO ONE agreed that the 1-26 spins "easily".

Those comments, accurate or not, prompted me to get at least some specific spin
training in the 2-33. I am 110 lbs, and usually put 40 to 60 more in the front
seat of the 2-33 when I fly it solo (and before anyone says anything, yes, I'm
one of the weirdos who, despite having my license for a year, still walks away
with a huge grin after flying the 2-33! sue me!!), but when we did the spin
training, I didn't add any weight, and the CFIG is around 185. It took some
doing to make it spin ... by that I mean that seeing what we had to do with the
controls, how long we had to wait, and the multitude of glaring signs that were
visible, audible, and perceivable by feel before it went into a spin, it's hard
to imagine how, in **that** aircraft, the signs of the impending stall alone
could be missed. I realize that's not the case for all aircraft, however.

The comment was made here on RAS: "We teach people in the 2-33 and then put
them into a 1-26 that spins at the drop of a hat with virtually little or no
spin training ... shame on us!" In the hours I've flown the 1-26 (summers in AZ
include some great-but-turbulent weather), I have not *unintentionally* come
close to stalling it, and no, I have not chosen to spin it on purpose.

To those who have stressed the importance of spin training *when talking about
flying the 1-26*, I would like to know specifics -- are you saying it stalls
and spins with little or no warning? If so, I'd like to hear details of
specific instances where this has actually happened to you ... not just the
blanket warning that applies to being aware of stalls and spins in *any*
aircraft...I'm assuming we always have that in mind.

Anyone? (Thanks in advance.)