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![]() Running up and down just few kilometers from the airport is not the same performance what requires by the current 3 turnpoints (plus start and finish point) rule. Double out and return still allowed. Theoretically you don't have to go further than 125km from your home on a 500km task. I can imagine a paper declaration with simple GPS log for badges. This would involve more pilots with the same security what photo and barograph provide right now. /Janos Mark James Boyd wrote: In article , Don Johnstone wrote: I stand corrected. My original query still stands. Where cameras and smoky barographs were used I can see the sense of a 'declaration'. With GPS do we really need it, surely the criteria should be the distance flown and this can now be positively verified with a data logger. Why complicate something so simple? A 300k or 500k downwind dash ie free distance is ok so why not a triangle A couple of points, and if anyone thinks any of these are wrong, please correct me: 1. If a qualifying task is completed which is a subset of the declared task, this is fine: EXAMPLE: A B D C E If A-B-E-C-D-A is declared, A-B-C-D-A is flown, and A-B-C-A qualifies as a 300km triangle, then (assuming the OZ and altitude rules are met), this is considered a "declared and completed 300km triangle." Congratulations! 2. There is no limit on the number of turnpoints one may declare for a flight. 3. Turnpoints may be repeated in a delaration. So, for example, A-B-C-D-E-A-B-C-E-D-A-B-D-C-E-A-B-D-E-C-A-B-E-C-D-A-B-E-D-C- A-C-B-D-E-A-C-B-E-D-A-C-D-B-E-A-C-D-E-B-A-C-E-B-D-A-C-E-D-B- A-D-B-C-E-A-D-B-E-C-A-D-C-B-E-A-D-C-E-B-A-D-E-B-C-A-D-E-C-B- A-E-B-C-D-A-E-B-D-C-A-E-C-B-D-A-E-C-D-B-A-E-D-C-B-A-E-D-B-C is a perfectly valid task declaration. It's also quite useful, because if one declares this before the flight, one can fly the turnpoints in any order and after the flight, that subset achieved is considered a completed, declared task. And any subset of those points which qualifies for a badge is also completed and qualifying. So if one has a clever computer program to print out all the turnpoint permutations, and enough printer paper, and a friendly OO, one can simply fly any turnpoints in whatever order and come back and land and then figure out what the flight qualifies for. All quite proper. Reducio ad absurdum... The IGC should have approved the idea of post-flight declared turnpoints for badge tasks. It saves paper... |
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