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Old March 12th 05, 07:03 PM
Jose
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Islam is not restricted to Arabic countries but then Islam is not the problem. Specific Arabic terrorist groups that use Islam as a blind are the problem.

.... which means that profiling would not be all that effective. That
is, unless you profile so narrowly that you essentially just get the
criminals themselves. The whole point of profiling is to detain people
based on surface similarities to the group you are targeting, hoping
that you'll snag someone.

I have no problem with detaining members of "specific Arabic terrorist
groups that use Islam as a blind". But this isn't profiling.

We may have made it more difficult to accomplish a certain kind of action, but we've also made it more difficult to thwart it should it occur.


Sorry, not following this argument...


We ban pocket knives on airplanes. Terrorists will find it harder (but
not impossible) to use a pocket knife to carry out their plan. But
should a terrorist manage to get one aboard, the rest of the (now
unarmed) passengers will have a harder time preventing the terrorist
from actually completing his deed. Further, a terrorist will know how
to use a sharp pencil as a weapon, and the average person will be at a
disadvantage in such an attack. Perhaps we should outlaw sharp pencils,
and only allow people to do their work using lipstick.

While I'm not advocating shootouts at thirty thousand feet, it's only
half in jest that I submit an alternate plan: everyone who boards an
aircraft is issued a gun, and if he hasn't used it by the end of the
flight, he has to explain why.

I have no problem with good people having weapons, and I think disarming
=all= people is more apt to disarm good people than bad people. This
tips the odds in favor of the bad, and I do =not= believe that this is
compensated for in this case by trusting in law enforcement.

Would you suggest that after two white males rob a bank that we should be looking for "two humans?"


For the time that we are actively looking for the actual bank robbers,
we should be looking for people who match the description. However,
once they are caught (or no longer being sought in any given venue) we
should no longer harass folks who innocently resemble the robbers.

If we are just trying to prevent bank robbery in general, the fact that
two white males robbed a bank once is of little consequence. Detain
white males and the next robbery will be committed with a trained dog
and a hand grenade.

The reaction to so called "profiling" is, for the most part, an emotional derivative of the civil rights movement in this country rather than a fundamental issue.


It is a reasonable reaction, considering the abuses of authority that
occured then, and are occuring even now. The DC TFR is an abuse of
authority which accomplishes nothing. Talk about profiling - the
attackers were giant jumbo jets, and it's the little mosquitos that are
kept away. AIRLINERS should be banned from DC, and all air transport
there should be by four seat single engine propeller planes weighing
less than 18,500 pounds.

Jose
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