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![]() "Matt Whiting" wrote in message ... Jim Burns wrote: Along those lines.... I had a friend, a PPL, non instrument rated that had a 172, infact, he was the influence that got me interested in flying. Fully capable of doing the PIC job, over 1000 hours at the time, I never had a reason to doubt it, until one trip. After I got my PPL and then my IR, we and our wives took a trip together, his airplane, he as PIC for the whole trip. However, I also planned it, both ways, there and back, and carried my charts and plates along "just in case". Before our trip home, he got the weather and filed VFR. I also got the weather and noted the FA at home called for increasing cloudiness and lowering ceilings. We took off and headed out. The weather was just as forecast. Ceilings started to come down, so he descended. Up ahead it was obvious that a lower layer was also coming in below us. His solution?? "We'll just stay here (VFR) between layers then circle down over the interstate and follow it home." He couldn't hold altitude within 500 feet while we were between layers. That was when the flight became MY responsibility, even though I was not PIC and was just a passenger, I became PIC and relieved him of his "responsibility". I called center, filed IFR, flew the rest of the way home, shot the approach down to about 800 ft AGL. Everybody agreed that was better than flying 300 miles following the interstate at 800 agl. Sometimes it pays to do what you can instead of just what is required. The concept of PIC does not relinquish another person from the responsibility they have to themselves and their family. The PIC is in charge of the flight, no doubt, but I'm still in charge of me and when my responsibilities to myself and my family conflict with another persons responsibilities as PIC, I'd rather be prepared to offer the PIC alternatives. And just how was a student pilot to "assume PIC" when it wasn't legal for him to do so? Your situation above isn't anything like the DC situation. It sounds from the reports that the student did get involved reasonably appropriately, then again none of us were in the cockpit to know exactly who did what when. Matt It could be the student pilot questioned the PIC frequently although some here are too closed minded to even consider that possibility. |
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