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![]() Fred Choate wrote: Here is a topic that was of discussion at work today: How much is too much over gross weight? For example.....the 172 has a gross weight of 2300 lbs, but what if you are 2345 at time of takeoff.....is that too much over, even if you are going to be burning enough fuel before your first scheduled stop to be under weight for landing? Just to add a little gasoline to the legal vs. practical argument, there are a good number of STCs out there that allow for gross weight increases. Power Flow has one for the C-172N that with relatively small modifications (limit flap travel, a cowl cooling lip that some N's already have) makes it legal to carry an extra 100lbs. http://www.powerflowsystems.com/prod...htincrease.htm It would seem to me that the real risks come from (1) CG limits and (2) takeoff performance. If you overload the plane beyond a certain point, it just isn't going to fly. Somewhere below that line, you'll fly in ground effect only, or have miserable climb rates. In either case, the lethal failure is the failure to abort soon enough. This is an experiment best conducted on a very long paved runway with no 50' trees at the end. In the back-country, where overloading is often committed, you're committed to flying soon after the plane starts rolling. Can an average GA plane take off with a load great enough to cause damage in the event of hitting some chop? I don't know, but I suspect that should be the least of one's worries. CG seems a more pernicious issue to me, as the plane's behavior can fool you. Chances are you won't realize you're thoroughly screwed until after you're up in the air without any good options. In addition to takeoff CG, I'd also compute CG with half fuel and very little fuel, just in case. And then there's the conditions at the moment of takeoff. A C-172 at gross on a hot humid day is in a lot worse situation than the same plane 50lbs over gross in the middle of winter at -10c. One's legal, the other's not, but which would you rather be in with a short runway and tall trees? As a low-time pilot, I choose to maintain wide safety margins, including abiding by the book where I am not sure. -cwk. |
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