Another reason to fly GA...

"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
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Gary Drescher wrote:

So you and your friend think it's "very clear" that the police should
summarily execute someone whom even the police believe at the time is
98%
likely to be innocent?

The terrorists aren't really fighting for Iraq or Afganistan. They're
fighting a war to, loosly speaking, convert our culture to theirs. The
foot soldiers may honestly believe otherwise, but the Bin Ladens have been
in the game long before Iraq or Afganistan.

What would it take for our culture to become theirs? For one thing, a
mentality that the state's well-being overrides individuals' well-being.
And I say we have that here. Following a path of reason that appears
quite
valid, that's exactly where London's gone.

What else? A theocratic tyranny of the majority. The majority in, for
example, the U.S. might be Christian today. But that's a problem easily
solved in the long term. Redefine the nation so that the majority can
impose its religious values upon the rest, and the remainder of the
"fight"
is just a generation or three of demographic work.

Guess what: we're losing this fight. The big problem is that we're aiming
at the wrong targets, and actually shooting ourselves in the foot.

Rather than letting us become more like an oppressive theocratic police
state, we need to become *more* ourselves. We need to place the values
that make us different - minority rights, freedom from oppression or
abuse,
freedom of expression and beliefm etc. - even higher upon our personal
totems.

There will still be people in opposition to us. But we'll never turn on
ourselves, and we'll never hand victory over.

- Andrew

Andrew, those are simply old ideas put forth by our founding fathers, the're
just not relevant anymore, deep down you know you really want to live in a
ninny or is it nanny state, I always get them confused, those words and
ideas are just for display in some museum not ideals to live by.