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"S Narayan" wrote in message
news:1128031835.1bb41b72ab7f6a781ad35e5e7380cc8f@t eranews... "Gary Drescher" wrote in message ... "Kris Kortokrax" wrote in message ... New text 5-4-9. Procedure Turn a. A procedure turn is the maneuver prescribed to perform a course reversal to establish the aircraft inbound on an intermediate or final approach course. The procedure turn or hold in lieu of procedure turn is a required maneuver (the following text is underlined in the AIM) when it is necessary to perform a course reversal. The procedure turn is not required when the symbol "No PT" is shown, when RADAR VECTORING to the final approach course is provided, when conducting a timed approach, or when the procedure turn is not authorized. The new text strikes me as entirely ambiguous. It could mean: "The procedure turn is a required maneuver, unless one of the following conditions obtains, in which case a course reversal is unnecessary: 1) the symbol 'NoPT' is shown; 2) radar vectoring to the final approach course is provided; 3) you are conducting a timed approach; or 4) the procedure turn is not authorized." Or it could mean: "The procedure turn is a required maneuver, unless: 1) the symbol 'NoPT' is shown; 2) radar vectoring to the final approach course is provided; 3) you are conducting a timed approach; or 4) the procedure turn is not authorized; or 5) there is (for any reason) no necessity to perform a course reversal." The two interpretations differ if conditions 1-4 don't obtain, but the pilot (and/or controller) thinks there's no need for a course reversal. The first interpretation says the procedure turn is still required in that case; the second one says the opposite. As a previous poster noted, they need to define how many degrees of turn constitutes a "course reversal". Then it would clear and unambiguous. Otherwise it is still is open to interpretation depending on the aircraft/speed etc. No, the ambiguity I'm pointing out isn't just a matter of the vagueness of "course reversal". The new AIM phrasing is ambiguous as to whether the enumerated conditions are meant only as an *elaboration* of what it means for a course reversal to be unnecessary (in which case a charted PT is required unless the enumerated conditions are met), or whether a lack of need for a course-reversal is meant as an *addition* to the enumerated conditions (in which case the PT might not be required even if none of the enumerated conditions are met). A secondary point (mentioned earlier in the thread) is that the TERPS standards can require a PT on the basis of altitude, even if you're already aligned with the final approach course. Moreover, it would make little sense for the AIM to recapitulate the TERPS criteria for PTs in order to specify the required action by pilots. Instead, the procedure chart itself should be designed according to the TERPS criteria, and should specify a PT requirement (by omitting the 'NoPT' designation) whenever those criteria are met. The first interpretation above would be consistent with that intent. --Gary |
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