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Old October 7th 05, 04:14 AM
Ron Rosenfeld
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On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 00:46:46 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
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"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote in message
.. .

If I understand your scenario properly, I have intercepted the FAC about
15
miles South of DEPRE and then turned inbound (to the N, towards DEPRE).
I
am at 3000'. At 5 miles from DEPRE I am cleared for the approach. I
should
be below the GP at that point so I would just continue along until
intercepting the GP, and then descend into the airport.

The presence of an aircraft behind me is irrelevant.

What is your point?


Why did you not execute the procedure turn? You've not been vectored to a
final approach course or fix, you're not an a segment marked NoPT, and
you've not been cleared for a timed approach from a holding fix. Is it not
your position that if the procedure has a PT charted it must be flown unless
one of those applies?


I would have assumed this was a "radar vectors to final" situation and
queried ATC to verify, since they didn't use the magic words that I
understand to be necessary for me to assume radar vectors. But ATC has had
me lined up with the FAC for quite some distance; I've been in radar
contact; I've been assigned an appropriate altitude to intercept the GP
from below; I've not crossed any IAF prior to DEPRE.

If that confirmation is not forthcoming, then I would inform ATC that I am
obliged to execute a procedure turn at DEPRE. I would maintain my last
assigned altitude of 3000' until crossing DEPRE.


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)
 




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