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Slow to 1.2 Vs, pitch up and add T.O. power, the plane won't
gain to much altitude before the power on stall. -- The people think the Constitution protects their rights; But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome. some support http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm "Christopher Parker" wrote in message ... |I am having a similar issue with the stall training and I have seen my | instructor perform the same technique you mentioned with the power on stall, | but he has not explained how he achieves it. Now I know how he does it, but | I still have a question. How do you prevent excessive gain in altitude if | you do not pitch high? | | | | "cjcampbell" wrote in message | oups.com... | | Bubba wrote: | Hello everyone, | | I'm sure you probably read at least 50 "newbie" messages a week and I | apologize in advance for this one. But as the subject reads, I'm a new | pilot in training. I've only been flying for about a month now, but I | only fly once a week, so really, I've only been up four times now. I | feel comfortable with my instructor and confident in his knowledge and | experience, but I have to admit, learning to fly is much more difficult | than it sounds/looks. | | So far, I feel confident in my ability to pre-flight the aircraft, taxi | on the taxi-ways, and take offs. I feel pretty good about those three | things. In other words, I can get myself in the air and establish a | steady altitude and fly (which I really enjoy). However, my instructor | is now showing me "stalls." These scare the living hell out of me!! | We've done power-off stalls for two sessions now and I know what they | feel like and can recover from them ok, but I really, really don't like | these. | | Also, last session, my instructor introduced me to landings. Now, my | log book only has about four hours of flight time in it, so you can only | imagine how this went. I'm really surprised the Skyhawks landing gear | held up to my abuse. Plus, for my first attempt, I was trying to land | with an unbelievable cross-wind. The wind was blowing from right to | left and from what I can tell, my instructor had the right rudder pedal | pressed all the way down. Again, this was scary as hell. I'm still | amazed we didn't crash. | | So I guess my question would be this: Can any of you guys offer some | advice on how to get through stall training and landings because right | now my confidence is shot. | | Thanks in advance, | Terry | | Stalls: do them until they are fun. :-) Actually, you are not the first | student who did not like stalls. Check over on rec.aviation.student and | you will find that out real quick. In fact, you will want to sign up | over there because this is just the beginning of questions that you | will have that the folks over there will help with. | | Okay, you are uncomfortable with stalls at first. I didn't like them, | either. Most people don't. One way I help my students to become more | comfortable with them is I make the students hold on the yoke by the | center stem only. This keeps the student from turning the yoke and | banking the plane. Then, instead of recovering immediately, I have the | student just hold the airplane in a stall and keep the nose straight | and the wings level using rudder only. Do this with power off stalls | only, of course. I make a game out of it: how long can you keep the | wing from dipping? Pretty soon the student realizes that the airplane | is not going to do anything that he doesn't allow it to do. | | Power on stalls are pretty easy to recover from. Most students pitch | too high and get too abrupt a recovery. As long as your airspeed keeps | coming back you will eventually stall. Once you do stall, just relax | the back pressure a little; too many people think they have to push the | yoke forward. You don't, just relax a little and the nose will come | down enough to break the stall. You will find that you can move in and | out of a power on stall just bobbing the nose up and down a little. Try | to see how little movement you can do it with. | | Now, you might think that messing around like this you might get into a | spin. Well, what of it? You have your instructor along and he is | supposed to know how to recover from mistakes like that. Even so, it is | unlikely because what I have you doing is just hovering on the edge of | a stall. Hanging on to the center of the yoke is also going to keep you | from making inappropriate aileron inputs. | | Usually when a student is having trouble with landing he has not | prepared well enough with slow flight and ground reference maneuvers. | Granted, the student begins landing almost from the first lesson, but | serious study of landings should begin only after the basic work has | been mastered. I usually hold off on landing practice until just before | solo, but that is still about half the pre-solo work you have to do -- | crosswind landings, recovering from landing errors, no-flap landings, | etc. | | Look for these common errors: not looking far enough down the runway, | pulling up the nose too soon ("fear of runway"), and poor airspeed | control. Never practice more than three landings in a row before having | your instructor demonstrate another one. It helps to keep from | developing bad landing habits. | | Don't worry about the Skyhawk's landing gear. For certification they | drop the plane from something like 20 feet and if the gear doesn't | break, it passes. I can almost guarantee that you will hurt yourself | before you hurt the gear, with the exception of the nose gear. If you | must make a bad landing, at least don't drop it on the nose gear. It | just is not built to take it. Neither is the propeller, engine, or | firewall, all of which can be easily damaged by landing on the nose | gear. So don't do it. | | | |
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