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Old December 6th 05, 02:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Default Need some advice for new pilot in training

Slow to 1.2 Vs, pitch up and add T.O. power, the plane won't
gain to much altitude before the power on stall.


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"Christopher Parker" wrote in message
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|I am having a similar issue with the stall training and I
have seen my
| instructor perform the same technique you mentioned with
the power on stall,
| but he has not explained how he achieves it. Now I know
how he does it, but
| I still have a question. How do you prevent excessive
gain in altitude if
| you do not pitch high?
|
|
|
| "cjcampbell" wrote in
message
|
oups.com...
|
| Bubba wrote:
| Hello everyone,
|
| I'm sure you probably read at least 50 "newbie"
messages a week and I
| apologize in advance for this one. But as the subject
reads, I'm a new
| pilot in training. I've only been flying for about a
month now, but I
| only fly once a week, so really, I've only been up
four times now. I
| feel comfortable with my instructor and confident in
his knowledge and
| experience, but I have to admit, learning to fly is
much more difficult
| than it sounds/looks.
|
| So far, I feel confident in my ability to pre-flight
the aircraft, taxi
| on the taxi-ways, and take offs. I feel pretty good
about those three
| things. In other words, I can get myself in the air
and establish a
| steady altitude and fly (which I really enjoy).
However, my instructor
| is now showing me "stalls." These scare the living
hell out of me!!
| We've done power-off stalls for two sessions now and I
know what they
| feel like and can recover from them ok, but I really,
really don't like
| these.
|
| Also, last session, my instructor introduced me to
landings. Now, my
| log book only has about four hours of flight time in
it, so you can only
| imagine how this went. I'm really surprised the
Skyhawks landing gear
| held up to my abuse. Plus, for my first attempt, I
was trying to land
| with an unbelievable cross-wind. The wind was blowing
from right to
| left and from what I can tell, my instructor had the
right rudder pedal
| pressed all the way down. Again, this was scary as
hell. I'm still
| amazed we didn't crash.
|
| So I guess my question would be this: Can any of you
guys offer some
| advice on how to get through stall training and
landings because right
| now my confidence is shot.
|
| Thanks in advance,
| Terry
|
| Stalls: do them until they are fun. :-) Actually, you
are not the first
| student who did not like stalls. Check over on
rec.aviation.student and
| you will find that out real quick. In fact, you will
want to sign up
| over there because this is just the beginning of
questions that you
| will have that the folks over there will help with.
|
| Okay, you are uncomfortable with stalls at first. I
didn't like them,
| either. Most people don't. One way I help my students to
become more
| comfortable with them is I make the students hold on the
yoke by the
| center stem only. This keeps the student from turning
the yoke and
| banking the plane. Then, instead of recovering
immediately, I have the
| student just hold the airplane in a stall and keep the
nose straight
| and the wings level using rudder only. Do this with
power off stalls
| only, of course. I make a game out of it: how long can
you keep the
| wing from dipping? Pretty soon the student realizes that
the airplane
| is not going to do anything that he doesn't allow it to
do.
|
| Power on stalls are pretty easy to recover from. Most
students pitch
| too high and get too abrupt a recovery. As long as your
airspeed keeps
| coming back you will eventually stall. Once you do
stall, just relax
| the back pressure a little; too many people think they
have to push the
| yoke forward. You don't, just relax a little and the
nose will come
| down enough to break the stall. You will find that you
can move in and
| out of a power on stall just bobbing the nose up and
down a little. Try
| to see how little movement you can do it with.
|
| Now, you might think that messing around like this you
might get into a
| spin. Well, what of it? You have your instructor along
and he is
| supposed to know how to recover from mistakes like that.
Even so, it is
| unlikely because what I have you doing is just hovering
on the edge of
| a stall. Hanging on to the center of the yoke is also
going to keep you
| from making inappropriate aileron inputs.
|
| Usually when a student is having trouble with landing he
has not
| prepared well enough with slow flight and ground
reference maneuvers.
| Granted, the student begins landing almost from the
first lesson, but
| serious study of landings should begin only after the
basic work has
| been mastered. I usually hold off on landing practice
until just before
| solo, but that is still about half the pre-solo work you
have to do --
| crosswind landings, recovering from landing errors,
no-flap landings,
| etc.
|
| Look for these common errors: not looking far enough
down the runway,
| pulling up the nose too soon ("fear of runway"), and
poor airspeed
| control. Never practice more than three landings in a
row before having
| your instructor demonstrate another one. It helps to
keep from
| developing bad landing habits.
|
| Don't worry about the Skyhawk's landing gear. For
certification they
| drop the plane from something like 20 feet and if the
gear doesn't
| break, it passes. I can almost guarantee that you will
hurt yourself
| before you hurt the gear, with the exception of the nose
gear. If you
| must make a bad landing, at least don't drop it on the
nose gear. It
| just is not built to take it. Neither is the propeller,
engine, or
| firewall, all of which can be easily damaged by landing
on the nose
| gear. So don't do it.
|
|
|


 




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