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... Mike Murdock wrote: : But if a pilot wants, they may allow any person to handle : the controls, but then neither may log that time. : As I understand it, the person ACTING as Pilot In Command may always log the : time (as total time and PIC time), whether that person is sole manipulator : of the flight controls or not. More than one person can certainly log PIC : time, but I can't think of a circumstance when nobody can log PIC time. That is most certainly *NOT* my interpretation up until a few days ago. There are some inconsistencies between the regulations (FAR 61.51) and the letter of the FAA from 1977: http://www.propilot.com/doc/bbs/msgs//11672.html I used to think that since there is a clear distinction between acting as PIC and logging PIC time in the FARs, that there was no way the acting PIC can log PIC time if a non-pilot was manipulating the controls. Crap... I *thought* I understood this whole thing. If it weren't for the letter, letting grandma or Fido fly means (according to the literal FARs) that *nobody* can log PIC. You've got it right. The FAA's legal opinion contradicts 61.51e. But at least the error is in our favor--that is, it removes a restriction rather than imposing one. --Gary |
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