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On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 07:45:01 -0800, "RST Engineering"
wrote: If it's not grade school kids I don't think most states have any requirements. It doesn't even require a degree to teach at the college level in many states. OTOH no many colleges will use a teacher without a degree. If it an "academic" subject (history, english, etc.) it requires a masters degree for starters. For voc-ed, it requires either a masters, a bachelors Not here. There are, or at least weren't any state requirements for teachers above the high school level. The colleges and universities set their own standards. plus two years paid service in that vocation, or an associates plus five years. There are a FEW of us old geezers around that got our commcoll "credential" over 40 years ago, but even then it was for the subjects that didn't have a degree program (like aviation ground school). If you wanted Surprisingly, my ground school was a 4 college credit course and I believe the instructor had his masters. an academic credential or a voc ed credential way back then, it was a degree plus experience for openers. We have a great electronics prof in our department who has one of the best teaching styles I've ever seen, but his bachelors is in history, with 25 years as a non-degreed electronics engineer. I know he can program rings around me, and I don't think the degree did anything for him except teach him how to teach. And for me the degree didn't teach me anything about teaching. :-)) It sure did open up a lot of doors though. I find many companies care more about the degree than they do the persons capabilities. One of the best computer architecture and machine language instructors at one of the colleges I attended here in Michigan had never been to college. He did pick up a few courses after he'd been teaching for something like 12 to 15 years. A few years back they decided he should have a degree so they sent him to another university to get his teaching degree. (they were paying) Unfortunately, the other university would not accept his 12 to 15 years of teaching as experience and said he had to do the student teaching part of the course which is not needed for teaching above the high school level. Although he was almost ready to graduate and only needed that student teaching part, he couldn't afford to continue to go without pay for that much longer. So, now he's out working in industry. I taught some Vo Ed classes before I went back to college to get my degree. This is for community college in California only. I don't speak for the university system or any other state, but I know of no university teacher without at least a bachelors and working on a masters. Many of our universities around here use "adjunct" faculty for evening classes and although there is no formal requirement, I don't know of any at present that will take some one without a degree, but there are many teaching physics, chemistry, and astronomy with just a bachelors degree. C is average which is supposed to indicate adequate knowledge. B is above average. That used to be true. Current thinking is that a C is "just barely passing", a D is unsatisfactory work, and F is failure. I don't want "just barely passing" flailing around on my lathe. Again that depends on the state and grading system. Here at least at the university level most grade on the curve so I always hoped I didn't end up in a class with 3 or 4 geniuses which would put an A out of the question. Here, the peak of the curve is considered average. OTOH they had just added "Writing across the curriculum" when I started back to college so while most of the students groaned at the thought I took the opportunity to gain a few points. At least we don't still have "outcome based education" in the high schools, but the "no child left behind" program is almost as bad in some areas. They keep putting the wrong people in charge of these programs. I think that is probably one of the few things that are cheaper in Ca:-)) College, nasty women, avocados, and wine. All else is higher. {;-) Certainly not property or the cost of living:-)) Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com Jim |
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