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			 If another airplane is flying an approach into the airport, you cannot depart IFR. In those cases ATC may assign a VFR departure. You see an avoid the other airplane until you reach your cruising altitude. Oh, my. It's not up to me to decide whether I can depart IFR because "another airplane is flying an approach into the airport". I either get a clearance, or I don't. AFAIK ATC can't "assign a VFR departure". Please show me where it says they can do that. *I* can decide to depart VFR rather than wait for a clearance. That is not an IFR operation. In that case I am VFR, until I obtain a clearance, whether that's at my cruising altitude or some other altitude. *I* can request a VFR climb while on an instrument clearance. "VFR climb" is defined terminology. "VFR departure" is not. Others say a VFR climb can be requested right from the airport surface, with the issuance of an instrument clearance for departure. I've never seen/heard this done, but I don't see any regulatory reason why it should not be possible, and I defer to those who say they have done it. Dave  | 
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