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Jordan wrote:
dontcowerfromthetruth wrote: Keep in mind (when reading the following) that Syria has supposedly made some sort of defense pact with Iran. Syria and Iran have made an explicit, open defense pact. So is attacking Damascus the way the Zionists will expand the war for Israel to Syria and Iran next (in accordance with the 'A Clean Break' agenda that esteemed intelligence writer/author James Bamford discusses on pages 261-269/321 of his 'A Pretext for War' book - see the URL about such included after the following) as Bush and Cheney have already said that the US would come to Israel's aid if Israel is attacked which will most likely happen if Israel gets into it with Syria and Iran: Well damn, it would be _nice_ if this happened -- it would get the war with Syria and Iran out into the open and put a powerful ally on our side. Plus, Israel could smack around Syria, maybe bite off another chunk of their territory, keeping the Syrians occupied while we took out the Iranian regime. If, that is, we're ready for it. I don't know though that the timing of this is entirely or at all under Israeli control. Remember that this all started because Hamas, feeling its oats as the new government of "Palestine," has decided to continue to step up terrorist operations against Israel, apparently not fully grasping that _as the government_ these are much more clearly Palestinian acts of war against Israel. I don't think that the Palestinians have much of a concept of self-government. In fact, I don't think that Arabs in general, or many of the other tribal groups in "Chaos-Stan" have much ability to govern themselves. The history of the Middle East seems to be one LONG litany of endless war between tribes and the rise and fall (usually by assassination or coup) of strongmen, warlords, and other various potentates with absolute power. "Government" in the Mideast (excepting Israel) seems to consist of kissing the ass of the guy with the biggest gun/sword and doing what he says, even when his words cause massive death and destruction. This is not a new problem-Muhammad's main goal in spreading Islam was to give the eternally warring tribes of Arabia a universal touchstone that would supersede tribal and warlord loyalties. It worked for about a hundred years, then the empire broke apart and tribes started killing each other again. I'm not a huge fan of Israel, but they have done in a hundred years what their Arab counterparts have NEVER done-produce a unified, stable governing system. The "countries" in the Mideast have been described as "tribes with flags" by Thomas Friedman. This has become painfully apparent in Iraq, where Bush simply assumed that once the oppressive dictator (Saddam) was removed that people would join hands and sing kumbayah and produce a stable democracy without much US help. Instead, they've reverted to the old tribal defaults, and started killing each other with renewed vigor. It's clear that the Iraq Shi'a regard Sadr as their strongman, and are willing to slaughter Sunnis in Sadr's name. If the US national govt was wiped out, Americans would likely establish some sort of democratic replacement eventually. It might take a while, but they would. If the Iraqi, or the Saudi, or the Afghan, or the Syrian, etc national govts were destroyed, you'd have all out civil war within a month, and in Iraq's case within 48 hours. That civil war would last for YEARS, until the cities looked like Beirut in 1985, and it is highly doubtful that any of those countries would ever exist again in any meaningful form. The only way that they would is if some warlord managed to conquer the entire territory, as the Taliban did in Afghanistan, and set himself up as president. I also don't see why all this would be to the Israeli advantage, unless this is combined with a long-term plan to drive the Palestinians out of Gaza and the West Bank. I _hope_ that it is, but I greatly fear that the Israelis still imagine peaceful coexistence with the Palestinians possible -- they've been pursuing that mirage for a very long time now. I don't think that's possible, at least not in today's geopolitical climate. If the Israelis made a concerted effort to clean out Palestine, the whole world (except the US) would jump all over them and make them stop. I don't think that the Israelis can successfully set up a govt in Palestine either, for the reasons that I mentioned. The best outcome would be to persuade Egypt to take back the Gaza Strip and Jordan to reclaim the West Bank. But I should note that when Sadat offered peace in exchange for Sinai, he told Israel that it could keep Gaza. Jordan has disavowed the West Bank. Both countries are more than happy to dump the mess in Israel's lap and let the Israelis deal with it. I think that if the Arab world really wanted to help Palestine, they'd take it back and resettle the Palestinians in their own countries. But the Palestinians are really just chess pawns in a game to destroy Israel, a goal that is a mirage. Instead, the Arabs have created the ultimate dysfunctional society-Pitcairn Island writ large and 100 times worse. The Arabs created the Palestinian monster in the hopes that it would eat Israel, but Israel is a bitter dish compared to the Arabs themselves. Now the monster has joined hands with the Hizbullah monster and threatens to eat EVERYBODY, Israelis, Arabs, Americans, everybody. Though I do think that it's likely that Israel will emerge from this First Terrorist War that began in 2001 with a stronger position vis-a-vis the Islamic world ![]() I don't think that Israel can invade Lebanon and win. They tried before, and failed. I think the same about Palestine. Sincerely Yours, Jordan PS - I know full well that you meant this to be alarming and ominous. However, I'm rather pro-Israeli, and see it as a good development for the world if Israeli power grows. Power corrupts, but compared to Arab chaos, Israeli rule looks rather attractive. |
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