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"Jim Logajan" wrote in message
.. . [...] Alas, I just found another one where the facts WERE different and the pilot LOST his appeal: http://www.ntsb.gov/O_n_O/docs/AVIATION/4020.PDF Also a very informative case. Some useful and enlightening tidbits: * It is specifically mentioned that the defacto exception granted practice landings has been defined by NTSB precedent (so apparently, the FAA at one point did try to take action against a pilot making a practice approach, and was overruled by the NTSB because the low flight was during a practice approach). * In the case, the board assumed that the claim of a practice approach was true, but found that since the runway was unsuitable for an actual landing with the aircraft in question, it was not subject to the exclusion-by-precedent of allowing practice approaches the same low-altitude exception granted real landings (also by NTSB precedent). * It is also noted that the exception granted practice landings is valid only at locations where a normal landing would be permissible. That is, the exception is not granted for practice approaches to a simulated emergency landing site (presumably if a normal landing were possible, even off-airport, that would be allowed since the FARs don't prohibit off-airport landings? hard to say without seeing a precedent for that). One thing that I note about cases like this that refer to precedents is that, absent any actual quotes from the precedent explaining why the precedent was decided the way it was, there's no way to know why the NTSB judged the original precedent case in favor of the pilot or the FAA (as the case may be). That's unfortunate because I think it's a lot more interesting to know why the original precedent was decided in a particular way, than to know that there is a precedent upon which subsequent cases rely. ![]() One other interesting thing about this case is that it very nicely illustrates the general attitude of the NTSB that the FAA is free to interpret and execute the FARs as they like. The NTSB only decides factual elements of the case, and defers interpretation and enforcement decisions to the FAA. This is stated explicitly in this case. I did a regular Google search using various keyword combinations. I now forget what worked in this case; I know "buzzing" was one of the keywords that worked better than "flyover" in conjunction with "runway". But I see now that the URL http://www.ntsb.gov/O_n_O/docs is a directory full of FAA administrative legal results and the following Google search yields a whole bunch of hits on any complaints containing the word "buzzing": site:http://www.ntsb.gov/O_n_O/docs/AVIATION buzzing Obviously other terms may work better. Such as "91.119"? ![]() haven't had a chance to read any of them (other than the two mentioned here so far), but I expect they will be similarly interesting. Pete |
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