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John Clonts wrote:
Sam Spade wrote: John Clonts wrote: wrote: It seems to me you are ignoring the depiction of the southern sector on the map view that shows 2800. This applies to aircraft inbound to DOCAP from anywhere southern. Why are you saying that it does not apply? (I.e. why is the controller allowed to clear the a/c to DOCAP and descend to 2100?). 2,100 applies at DOCAP per the IAP. The MVA is 2,000 to the west of DOCAP and 2,100 to the east. Yes but I am talking about *prior to* DOCAP. 2800 applies prior to DOCAP per the IAP. If ATC clears an a/c to 2100 prior to DOCAP is it (1) a controller error which should be refused by the pilot, or (2) ok because somehow "mva trumps iap arrival sector altitude"? Again, a more consistent handling with the IAP profile and human-factors would have been for ATC to assign 2,800 to DOCAP. Under the present wording in the ATC Handbook MVA trumps the direct-entry sector's altitude. Another way to look at it is the IAP begins at the IF based on the clearance. An anology would be a "true" vector to final, say a 30 degree cut to the approach course 2 miles inside DOCAP. 2,100 would be an acceptable controller assignment in that case. The new application might work better with a restriction to not assign an altitude below the IF crossing altitude. But, that is not how it reads at present. |
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