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Yep and the answer's the same, fvck off back in your hole.
"daffy" wrote in message oups.com... I thought it was time to complain again. Larry Dighera wrote: On 10 Aug 2006 13:28:39 -0700, "daffy" wrote in .com: The Bay Area is plagued by small plane noise. Here's the answer you got to the same question last January: From: Don Tuite Newsgroups: rec.aviation.piloting Subject: Planes drone out MLK celebration Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:51:33 GMT On 17 Jan 2006 10:18:20 -0800, "daffy" wrote: First, the city we are talking about is Newark, not Norwalk. Second, the small plane (GA) traffic is NON-STOP, where a new plane passes overhead every 60 seconds or so everyday, so this plane noise was not done delibertly during the ML King celebration. It was hard to hear the speaker while planes flew above the event. Yes, the noise lasts only 20 seconds, and if only a few planes per hour were out, it wouldn't be an issue, but the airspace above Newark is a pilots fancy. This complaint makes sense. Planes heading for San Carlos, Palo Alto, Reid Hillview, Hayward, and to some extent, Oakland tend to exit the Livermore valley via the Sunol gap. The gravel ponds at Niles are sort of a waypoint, and Lake Elizabeth marks a step transition in the base of the San Francisco class B, so it's another airplane magnet. Going west or north, the reporting point for San Carlos is the Coyote Hills, which is a little north of the Dumbarton Bridge tollboth. Inbound Palo Alto pilots report the Nummi plant or the salt pile, a little to the south. I'm not sure where the Hayward reporting point is from the south, but it's got to be right around there. A little further south and you're in San Jose's airspace. That actually protects Milpitas because flying east of 680 puts you out of San Jose airspace. The result is that Newark and Fremont take it in the shorts. I don't have a solution, but the poster is by no means talking through his hat. Well, I do know one thing that makes logistical sense. Move Palo Alto GA and San Jose freight to Moffet. Don |
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