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Old August 25th 06, 05:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jim Burns wrote:
Sorry, back up.... I misread your answer...

You're correct... but say I pay you $3 per gallon for a September contract
that climbs to $4 before it settles and goes off the board. I now own $3
gas but the market is $4 and you owe me either the gas or the price of the
contract on the contract due date. I may want the gas and you will have the
obligation to deliver it to the contract location.


Not true. A future is just a bet on the price as I described. It is
the case that the payment may be made in kind if both parties agree.
But there is not obligation make an in kind transaction on either
party.

A consumer buys futures to insure a particular price, not actual
delivery of oil. They have to buy oil directly or indirectly from the
spot market.


My point is that if neither of us have the facilities to handle the fuel,
neither of us should be in the fuel business.
Jim

"Jim Burns" wrote in message
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That's an option, not a futures contract.

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ups.com...

Jim Burns wrote:
Kind of like the stock market, all on emotion.

I agree. In theory, if you get "caught" owning a futures contract

when
it
closes, you can be forced to take delivery of the actual product. You

can
also be forced to deliver the actual product.

That is not true. Here is an example of what a future is:

Suppose you and I were neighbors. You pay me $3 if I agree to
pay you the price posted at the local gas station for regular at 9
AM tomorrow.

A future is nothing more than a bet on the future price in the
spot market.

If futures traders were forced
to own facilities to accommodate delivery of the underlying product,

or
forced to own the product before selling a futures contract, there

would
be
a LOT less speculation.

Jim




 




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