Silly controller

And if you are not IR rated and current, they just put you
in violation of the FAR.




"Christopher C. Stacy" wrote in
message ...
| (Christopher C. Stacy) writes:
|
| "Robert M. Gary" writes:
|
| Christopher C. Stacy wrote:
| "Steven P. McNicoll"
writes:
|
| "Christopher C. Stacy" wrote
in message
| ...
|
| When he gave you the clearance for the approach,
did he say
| "Maintain VFR?" If not, you were really IFR.
|
|
| No. You're really IFR when you hear "Cleared to..."
|
| Like in, "Cleared for the ILS runway 23 at Foobar
maintain 2000 until established" ?
| Or "Cleared to Land"
|
| Word games aside, Steven is right. The difference
between being IFR and
| VFR in controlled airspace is being told "cleared to
foobar".
|
| The instruction "Cleared for the ILS runway 23 at Foobar
maintain 2000 until established"
| contains "cleared", a route (which is even a charted IFR
procedure), an altitude,
| and a clearance limit (landing Foobar airport, or
executing the published missed
| approach procedure). How is that not an IFR
clearance?
|
| I think it is, unless the controller adds the words
"maintain VFR".
| When I want a practice approach and the controller fails
to say "VFR",
| I add it back in to try and make sure, like:
| "Cherokee 97R cleared for the ILS 29 maintain VFR".
|
| I phoned Boston TRACON for their opinion, and the
supervisor said that when
| (for example) receiving multiple practice approaches in
VFR conditions,
| with the phraeology given above: unless the magic words
"maintain VFR"
| are in the instruction, you are in the system, receiving
IFR separation,
| and in the event of lost comm would be expected (in VFR
conditions) to land.