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Actually, PAO does have a DP;
http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/d_tpp PALO ALTO, CA PALO ALTO AIRPORT OF SANTA CLARA COUNTY DEPARTURE PROCEDU Rwy 13, turn left. Rwy 31, turn right. All aircraft climb direct SJC VOR/ DME before proceeding on course. FAA/AVN must evaluate all airports with instrument approaches to confirm there are no obstacles that would prevent a diverse departure. If those obstacles are found, then they (AVN) have to publish a climb gradient and ceiling/visibility or publish a DP that will allow avoiding the obstacles without a climb gradient. Aside from the obstacle avoidance DPs created by AVN, if ATC had enough traffic that they thought a textual or graphic DP was needed, then they would request it through AVN. Normally an obstacle DP will contain an altitude where the DP ends and random flight can resume, although a published altitude would not be needed if the altitude you reach at SJC VOR based on 200' per NM allows diverse flight from that point. ATC is allowed to vector you on departure as long as they keep you clear of any prominent obstacles depicted on their scopes, if I recall correctly. So, to answer your question, Standard Instrument Departure procedures are normally created at the request of ATC if they feel they need one. There are some costs involved, particularly the man hours needed to build it, evaluate it and flight check it, plus the publication costs, and periodic review costs. JPH Dave Jacobowitz wrote: I fly out of Palo Alto, CA, and I have never heard an IFR clearance read over ground whose route section did not start "when able, right turn to 060 with 1 mi of the airport, radar vectors san jose, v334 sunol ..." My clearance starts out this way whether I file a flight plan to the east, north, or south. (I haven't flown to Hawaii yet, so can't say what I'd get going west. ![]() file /G or /A. This is pretty much what you get out of PAO if you fly a spamcam. (It's possible that more capable aircraft get something else.) In any case it seems that if a certain departure clearance is frequently used, that would be the circumstances under whch someone would say "let's publish a DP!" So, why wouldn't someone publish a DP? Does it cost the gov't extra money? Does a published DP have to meet higher requirements than a hand-rolled departure clearance? Just curious. If they do create one, I want to name it. "Stinky Garbage one, San Jose transition" (STINK.SJC) -- dave j -- jacobowitz73 --at-- yahoo --dot-- com |
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