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If someone says "all pilots are spolied rich men", would you throw him
out of your house/airport/business? It doesn't matter what I would do. That I would not do so does not make such a comment polite. The comment you mentioned above about Jews is not the same as the examples we are talking about., The sole purpose of that comment is derogatory and is meant to offend someone. I would rate that comment along the same line as Jay pounding his fist and shouting at the FBO, both of which call for a 'throwing out'. Uh.... no. The comment I mentioned about Jews -- "in my experience, Jews are all cheap *******s" is quite similar to Jay's comment: -- "those guys are the cheapest SOBs around!" Suppose the exchange had been a little different. The FBO owner is Jewish, her husband is a Rabbi, and Jay (unknowingly) says: "Yeah, the only time the tanks don't get filled at our place is when a Rabbi uses our van -- those guys are the cheapest SOBs around!" I really don't see the difference. Jay walked in with a superior attitude which came to light in this exchange. He did a nice thing - filling the tank. But then, tipping a waitress is also a nice thing, isn't it? How about tipping your doctor after an exam? That's just not done, and a doctor would probably refuse (and may even be insulted). Tipping is often seen as something one does to servants; it helps reinforce class distinctions. -- He replied that we "Didn't have to do that..." He turned down the tip, in a sense. -- "Yeah, the only time the tanks don't get filled at our place is when charter pilots use our van -- those guys are the cheapest SOBs around!" That is effectively saying that Jay is better than those SOBs because he filled the tank. Since the FBO person was also a charter pilot, Jay must be better than him. Not that he meant to insult him, but that's how the person took it, and that is fair enough. What Jay said was insulting, even if (nudge nudge wink wink)... Jay, instead of apologizing, =justifies= his insult, saying that they aren't paid enough. That's an example of the "superior attitude" I refer to. Accident chain in progress - he's talking to the guy who pays the charter pilots. Then to top it off, they add insult to insult, when after being (justifiably) thrown out, Mary comments that "Avoiding this place shouldn't be too hard." It may come to pass that somebody will get Jay's goat at the hotel, and Jay will throw that SOB out on his derrier, fully believing he's in the right. I wonder what =that= story will look like. Jay says: It's a shame -- with all the problems facing GA, small-town airports simply can't afford to have FBOs driving off what little business they have I say that it's a shame that Jay insults and demeans fellow pilots who are struggling to make a living at flying, and who are probably quite generous in other ways. I'd go as far as to say that just =being= a charter pilot is an act of generosity in itself. Jay says: My mistake was in believing that I was sharing an inside joke with an FBO owner and fellow courtesy car provider. At least yesterday, this guy was a charter pilot first, and an FBO owner as an afterthought -- and he took the joke personally. At this point the best thing that might happen is that he sits down with his pilots, and drills into them that they should ALWAYS fill the courtesy car whenever they use it. His mistake was more arrogance. (at this point I'm talking more to Jay than to Andrew) The best thing that might happen is that Jay realize that people are =people= first, and "couresy car providers" last. There is nothing wrong with being a charter pilot "first" and a business owner second. I wouldn't call it an afterthought at all. That's another insult you are hurling out at a fellow pilot, who for all you know may actually pay his charter pilots very well and only run the FBO so that he can do so. Did you buy any avgas? Not this time. However, airports are publically owned for a reason -- their primary impact is that they bring lots of dollars into the local economy. Thus, the "business" this guy drove off was the $30 we spent at the local restaurant, the $15 we spent at the local gas station (filling HIS tank) plus any future business we could provide to his FBO. So, taking the other side for a moment, why should a charter pilot care about filling the tank? That courtsey car is attracting all this business to the city, so the FBO should be thrilled about that. You too shouldn't care whether pilots fill up your grape. But you do - enough to spread ill will about charter pilots (whom you profess to love) and think yourself superior. Jose -- "Never trust anything that can think for itself, if you can't see where it keeps its brain." (chapter 10 of book 3 - Harry Potter). for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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