2-Batteries

I just don't get it. Why do you need the extra stage of regulation -
what device is having problems running at typical "12 volt" battery
voltages?

I have the same compuer (C302) as you, fly often in a club ships with
B40 varios and I've never noticed any problems with either at during
battery discharge. I've not heard of problems with the TruTrack T&B
either. Are you doing this because the Microair 760 is voltage
sensitive?

If you believe the efficiency figures for the regulators you quote you
are paying a cost around a 20% reduction in capactity for something I'm
not sure you need. I expect it may be less than this but still it seems
like an unneeded throwing away of capacity and increase in complexity
for no real benefit. It might be interesting to measure the actual
capacity penalty you are paying.

Though I don't use diodes with my two main batteries/master switches, I
do understand the why/how/advantages and disadvantages for doing so. I
do not get the why/how/advantages for adding voltage regulation.


Darryl Ramm


OxAero wrote:
Link to schematic: http://www.oxaero.com/GliderPowerBoard-Hendrix.pdf
Jim Hendrix

On Dec 29, 7:02 pm, "OxAero" wrote:
Gary,

I developed a circuit card with isolation diodes for two batteries and
a pair of efficient voltage regulators, one for high current devices
(radio and transponder) and the other for the rest. As Dick indicated
the panel has two SPST switches for two batteries. The diodes drop .3
Volts, but the regulators operate down to low voltages. There is a
price to pay for operating the regulators. But, I felt that
considering that I use 12 Ah batteries, I had plenty of capacity and I
was more interested in supplying regulated power to my instruments.

The problem was that the large regulator couldn't handle the start up
load from the transponder. So, my quick fix was to bypass that
regulator with the second switch. I expect to revisit the project some
day and finish it properly.

Jim Hendrix



Gary Emerson wrote:
wrote:
By all means a second battery should be installed in our electrically
driven modern sailplanes. After many years of quickly flipping my
3-position battery switch, and trying not to have my logger to
momentarily dropout, I have concluded that is best to use 2 single-pole
battery switches. That way one can have either or both batteries
connected at the same time.

I saw the light when Jim Hendrix brought his sailplane to Caddo Mills
for Wing Deturbulator flight testing, and it was wired like that. You
will hear much more about that amazing new invention at the coming SSA
Convention.

Thermally,

Dick Johnson

Better yet is to use diodes so that both batteries will always be "on"
in parallel and you're always pulling from the best battery with no
fiddling required from the pilot. Relatively low voltage drop diodes
are available with 18 Amp forward capacity. For redundancy, I used two
in parallel on each battery. The diodes are available in the TO-220
package and it's easy to incorporate a small heat sink, but I have no
reason to believe they ever attained any temperature at all.

With two batteries connected with switches, if one battery does really
"die" then any time spent with both switches in the "on" position causes
the good battery to attempt to charge the "dead" battery to no avail, so
ultimately you're wasting what power you do have during this time. The
diodes eliminate any chance for cross charging...or discharging. Used
this system for several years, never experienced a single power issue.- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -