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Brooks writes
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First flight in August 1942.

And standard carrier borne fighter throughout the latter part of the
war, when you are claiming the USN went "wholesale" to the 20mm?

When you change your procurement policy, it doesn't magically alter the
existing lines, nor those aircraft already in service.

But you are ignoring that new line that was just entering production
in 45...


First flight August 1944.

Wow. And that first aircraft was armed with.....50 cal MG's, right?

Same as the first Typhoon was armed with .303" MGs.

In both cases, it was considered worthwhile to expend effort, time and
money changing the design to an all-cannon armament.

But those delivered in 45 were armed with MG's...


The F4U-1C served in WW2 and the F4U-5 in Korea with a 20mm armament.

Look at the numbers; more .50 cal armed Corsairs served in both
conflicts.

That's because the change happened late, with a considerable production
already in place.

When was this magical date that the USN said to change all production
to 20mm?


Remind me where I said their _use_ was wholesale?

Oh, pardon me. Just waht were you claiming as "wholesale"?

Adoption. Which USN fighter was procured with a machine-gun armament
after 1944?

The F8F. Initial deliveries did not start until Feb 45...with MG's.


I said that the USN switched its preferred armament from .50 to 20mm in
1944 or thereabouts, which is clearly reflected in subsequent design and
procurement decisions.

One wonders why .50 cal armed naval aircraft were still coming off the
lines at the end of the war?

Because the existing lines for older designs weren't modified.

But the line for the F8F did not start up until either the *very* end
of 44, or more likely, in early 45 (production being much more rapid
in those days).

Brooks


The war ended before that decision filtered
through to the front line.

Gee, since they were still flying Corsairs with the .50 cal MG's in
Korea five and six years later, one wonders just how "wholesale" this
decision really was.

I wouldn't take Korea as a great example of logical procurement policy:
it was fought with what was available, not what was desired.