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How did the Iranians get the Phoenix to work?



 
 
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Old September 28th 03, 09:48 AM
Tom Cooper
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"Matt Wiser" wrote in message news:3f762c9c@bg2....

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Some people here have been claiming that

the Iranians made effective and
widespread use of the Phoenix missle against

Iraq. I have always read
that after the Shah fell US civilian technicians

altered the F-14s they
were servicing so that they could never

fire the Phoenix. If the
Iranians *did* use the Phoenix, how did

they overcome the sabotage?

They had the maintenance manuals, US-trained

technicians, spare parts, and
time.


They made a homebuilt Phoenix. I went to school
with Iranian engineering
students at CSUF, they have the skill.


Not to mention clandestine US assistance in the early 1980s, plus

shipments
of -54A missiles when the USN went to the -54C. It appears that they have
reverse-engineered the -54A and build an unliscensed version of Phoenix.


Matt,
USN AIM-54As (and even less so their AIM-54Cs) are the same as Iranian
AIM-54As: so, they could not have been given to Iran even during the
"Irangate" affair.

The Iranians knew this so they also never asked for complete missiles. What
they were looking for instead (and what was usually smuggled) were
maintenance+upgrade packages and batteries for their AIM-54s.

Tom Cooper
Co-Author:
Iran-Iraq War in the Air, 1980-1988:
http://www.acig.org/pg1/content.php
and,
Iranian F-4 Phantom II Units in Combat:
http://www.osprey-publishing.co.uk/t...hp/title=S6585


 




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