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Fred the Red Shirt wrote in
oups.com: On Aug 26, 2:09 am, wrote: On Aug 25, 7:59 pm, Fortunat1 wrote: Fred the Red Shirt wrote roups.com: On Aug 17, 2:50 am, Charles Vincent wrote: Fortunat1 wrote: "Rich S." wrote in : "Fortunat1" wrote in message ... Well, obviously I'd protect it, but I'm not going to rely on epoxy to bear a load. If I can't get the holes 100% I'll bush them.... ...So I guess I'l just be as careful as I can cutting the holes. Just looking through Bengelis' book, I see he recommends using a twist drill to cut the holes, presumably to their final size,... I would test that theory first. Reamers may or may not give a good finish on wood. That was one of the reasons I quoted the study I did. The twist drill gave the best hole finish. Bits made for wood, high quality brad-point or forstner bits, may give you a cleaner hole than a twist drill made for metal. Cheap bits are crap-they'll burn their way through the wood. Actauly, having tried each on some scrap pieces of spruce, the twist drill gave the best finished hole and the roundest hole by a long shot. The 5/16th bolt was a perfect fit after having used a an 8mm twist drill. As a rule of thumb, when working wood, use tools made for woodworking. Duh! Yes, mostly I do, but in this case, I'll use what works best! I found the woood bit went a bit eccentric as it went through giving a slightly tapered bore as it went through. Wood expands and contracts with changes in humidity and it does so anisotropically. E.g. a flat-sawn board will have the highest expansion rate accross it's width, less through its thickness, and minimal along it's length. Quarter sawn or vertically grained wood, which is what you usually want for a spar cap, will have those first two rates reversed. What this means is that if you drill a perfectly circular hole in a piece of wood, as soon as the humidity changes it becomes an oval hole. The same is true of a wooden dowel. Wood finishes slow the rate at which wood absorbs or releases moisture to the air so as to prevent moisture gradients through the interior of the wood, which minimizes e warpage. But all wood finishes are permeable to some degree to water vapor. So don't get too crazy about making the hole perfect. I think the epoxy approach is a good idea. 'Kay,. but did the bipes of the thirties have the holes filled in any way? Lots of them are still flying wth their original spars. - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It's interesting to hear of your results on hole quality. I have also found that a good, sharp HS twist drill works great in metal or wood. I think the place where the special wood bits like the Forstner ( a fancy hole saw) are used is in drilling large holes. For 1/2" dia holes or so and smaller, the twist drill is the way to go. If you need a 2" or 3" hole or so, well a twist drill that size is a huge chunk of metal, hard to find locally and expensive to boot. Hole saws do OK in wood ( and even metal if you are carefull) up to 6" dia or so and are what I use for large holes. I'm still surprised that a good quality brad-point would not make a neater hole than an ordinary twist dirill. At the very least it will make a neater hole at the entrance and exit. It didn't and the brad point is a very good quality bit. One of the books I have somewhere recommends a twist bit for the wood. Might be the Bengelis book but IIRC it says to use as sharp a bit as possible and to feed it at a reate that makes smal shavings, which is what I id and it worked a treat. I did some practice pieces using some scrap steel parts. I located the first hole as accurately as I could, then drilled the rest using the steel part as a guide. I started each cut by hand just turning the chuck until it was in a bit and then turned the power on. The resulting hole was about as good as it gets with zero tearaway. The bolt fit perfectly with the fit just enough friction to hold the bolt in by itself. |
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