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ArtKramr wrote:
Subject: Aircrew casualities From: Guy Alcala Date: 9/29/03 8:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time Message-id: 3F78FB42.14031EFC@junkpo The scale of losses was a record at that time, Guy Yeah.. No way in hell a typicle mission. Again, typical referred to the tactics, techniques, and weapons. The losses were very high, but only a bit outside the normal percentage to be expected for such missions. Those of us who flew missions in the ETO the word Schweinfort sent shivers down our spines. Does your historical research allow for shivers down the spine on that never to be forgotten "black" mission which along with Ploesti defined missions that were pure hell.? Sure. it also allows for the first big mission to Berlin on March 6th, 1944, where we lost 69 bombers and 11 fighters, a greater total loss than any other single mission (but a much smaller pecentage loss than Second Schweinfurt or Kiel, because far more a/c were involved). It also allows for missions like the one where the 445th BG (Jimmy Stewart's old outfit) was in the wrong place at the wrong time and suffered the highest losses by any single group on any mission in the war, on a mission to Kassel on September 27th, 1944. IIRR, they lost 24 or 25 B-24s out of 30 or so. But the force as a whole took average casualties, because the 445th took almost all the casualties sustained. So, from the force commander's perspective, it was a typical mission, but from the 445th's perspective it was a unique disaster. Both are correct. Guy |
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