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Le Chaud Lapin wrote:
Well, someone should have told me that Rob Machado and Barry Schiff are not experts. I did read once that Rod Machado has a Ph.D. in aviation science, and the foreword to Barry Schiff's book is by Ernest K. Gann, whom I presumed from his credentials is highly respected in field. As far as I know, Machado, Schiff, and Gann are experts in piloting, not aerodynamics. There is very large difference in having a degree in "Aviation Science" and Aerodynamics. The former seems to typically include only one course in aerodynamics and an associates degree can be obtained in only two years. Since no calculus is required, the aerodynamics presented is likely to be qualitative and not quantitative. An aerodynamics engineering degree, on the other hand, is at least four years and a couple years of aerodynamic courses. Calculus is required and is intended to impart enough knowledge to a student so they could design aircraft. But what is in my Jeppensen book and what Barry Schiff wrote is wrong. It could also be considered incomplete, rather than outright wrong. Now I could have gone to some university in the U.S., Germany, France, and found someone with stratospheric credentials in aero-astro, but after seeing one expert say that the other is wrong, and then seeing an incorrect application of Newton's law (yes I still believe it's incorrect), I had to put on the brakes. I don't agree with your approach to how you handled the contradictions you encountered. If you can handle the math and physics, I think you should move on to that level, not "put on the brakes." The problem is not one of piloting, but rather understanding the physics and aerodynamics, so I'm not sure why you chose to post to a piloting group. I would suggest you post a query asking for authoritative texts and material to one or more of these groups: sci.physics sci.mech.fluids sci.physics.computational.fluid-dynamics sci.aeronautics I guess the most important thing I learned from this experiences is that, if it is true that the field of aerodynamics is fully-cooked, the experts need to tell everyone else so that they stop printing (as late as 2006) erroneous information in textbooks about the very basics. I do not the fault the experts. They have authored much material on the subject. But it's a complex subject - just as complex as quantum mechanics, for example. But some people insist on seeking easy to undertand or otherwise "intuitive" explanations for systems where multiple constraints are operating simultaneously. So when explanations are reduced to comprehensible bits something has to give. I'm not sure why you appear shocked by this. |
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