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Old November 18th 07, 10:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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Default Hey Dudley, detailed analysis of these?

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:


OK, the first one should have been the T6 slow roll where he dished out
in the end.(orange one in south america?)
Looks like he had nothing even beginning the roll and had completely
lost the plot by the time he reached even 45 degrees and should have
just thrown it away at that point.
To me, the KC accident looked like the result of a way too low energy
state going through the top gate. He should have had at least 150
indicated inverted on top but it looked like he lost his energy to
drag going up the up line by pulling too much g. He was practically
dead in the water on top but apparently at fairly high power. This
looked like it torqued him in roll pretty good and he lost it coming
through the gate. He recovered as the angle of attack narrowed back
into the work range but by then he was committed way too nose low and
had no radial g available to affect the recovery.


The guy in the T6, rolling right, judging from the clip, never made the
rudder switch from left to right rudder as he passed through inverted.
His held in left rudder became bottom rudder as he passed through
inverted then yawed him hard as he reached the second knife edge. Add to
this he didn't have enough forward stick in either as he went through
inverted. The combination of the two errors caused the nose to come down
as he rolled into the 3rd quarter.

You just don't do this in a low altitude roll and survive. To me it
looked like bad control coordination beginning at inverted and held
through impact . The first half of the roll looked good BTW. He just
blew it on the second half.
His airspeed looked fine for a T6 going into the roll set so energy
wasn't the issue here.

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