50% of NAZI oil was supplied from US

"Michael Petukhov" wrote in message
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"Geoffrey Sinclair" wrote in message
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If you just want to go on the avgas, motor vehicle fuel and diesel
oil then stocks as of September 1939 were 1,241,000 tons,
production and imports 1940 to 1944 were 23,975,000 metric
tons of which 7,492,000 metric tons were imports.

So 24 or 7.5 mil tons?


24 million tons was the total production of which
7.5 million were imports

Note imports
include over 1,000,000 tons of captured fuel and fuel sent directly
from Romania to the German army in the East.

Romania was German ally till 44. why to capture?


He said Romanian production AND captured fuel


Rather hard for the US to supply half of Germany's oil needs
unless there were large multi million ton imports in the 1937
to 1939 period, which clearly did not happen as the import
figures and 1939 fuel reserves figures show.

Which import? US one? Maybe. How about Mexican, Venezuelian,
S. African export under Standard oil control?


Coulddnt get there, the RN were rather efficient at blockading Germany

Diesel production
1940 to 1944 amounted to 5,427,000 tons, imports another
2,327,000 tons, stocks as of September 1939 298,000 tons.
The U-boats were the big users of diesel, again rather hard
for the US to supply 100% of the U-boat fuel.

The article says that above mentioned oil was mainly supplied to
Canaries where it was partly refined partly reloaded to Spanish
tankers to be delivered in Mediterian ports under germany control.


Spain had barely suffucient tankers for its own needs and
tankers heading for axis ports tended to be sunk on sight.


It would be good to know which country's ships were being
used to transport the oil, the allies were always short of
tankers until very late in the war. Spain in 1939 had some
16 tankers, or 86,000 Gross registered tons (ships of
1,600 GRT or larger).

Well the artcile says that on the route from Americas to Canaries
the Standard's tankers fleet under Panama flags were used. after
that on the way from canaries to mediterian ports spanish tankers
were used. The numbers fits. one week round trip 86000 tons*52=
4.5 mil tons/year plus german sub fleet refuelling in canaries
until 44 at least 1 mil tons /year plus unknown amount of
refulling of german subs in bases of S. America organized by
Davis oil company.


Dont be silly.

1) A tanker cant make a delivery every week from the
USA to the Canary Islands. Its 3-4 weeks each way
including time for loading

2) That tanker fleet was all Spain had to meet its own
oil needs

3) The Canaries didnt have the facilities to handle such traffic

4) There are no German or Spanish records to indicate
any such dealings

All around import from US companies 6 mil tons/year.


In the time period 1 September 1939 to 22 June 1941 the
USSR supplied over 1,000,000 tons of petroleum products
to Germany out of over 3,500,000 tons of supplies. Then
add another 380,000 tons from Japan and 80,000 tons
from Afghanistan and Iran the USSR allowed to be
shipped through the USSR. See the Economic Blockade
by W N Medlicott, which goes into great detail about
Germany's imports from neutral countries, it includes
detailed tables from Sweden, Turkey, Spain, Portugal,
French North Africa and the USSR. It goes into the
negotiations the allies undertook with the neutrals to
minimise their trade with Germany and ensure they were
not used for blockade breaking.

Indeed. However none after june 22, 1941 form USSR
while Spanish oil was in fact 100% US one.


Spain was of course neutral and received barely sufficient oil
for its own use.

Keith