German historian provokes row over war photos

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Subject: German historian provokes row over war photos
From: "Steven P. McNicoll"
Date: 10/22/03 2:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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If there was no Hitler there would hve been no WW II and the 55 million
who
died would all have lived.


That can't be known. Even if Corporal Hitler had been killed in the Great
War events could still have transpired leading to another war and the need
for Roman numerals to differentiate them.


We don't know what might have happened. We only know what did happen to the
everlasting shame of the German people.

"Eternal Shame". Yes of couse guilt is heriditary especialy so when
it comes to Germans or White people in America and Europe. A usefull
concept if you want to destry a culture and the race that this culture
nurtures and sustains. Genocide and Ethnocide by stealth.

It's also a racist concept. (Noting wrong with that except it's a
double standard)

Tell me what are your racial and antecedents? Can you be shamed
eternaly commiting genocide upon the Caananites, or were your
ancestors from the SE of Eruope one of those turks or mongols that
ranged as far north as Moscow, Vienna and Warsaw in the 8th-14th
century taking slaves and killing their parents?

Perhaps you were one of the English that murdered Celtic Scotts at
Culloden? or a French Catholic who expelled the Huegenots? I'm sure
we can pin something on you in recent History. As an american I hope
you get to enjoy paying for affirmitve action, racial set asides and
soon "reperations". For ever.

The Germans and the Nazis had no truck with the English, French or
anyone else in Western Europe. They were concerend with the 3.5
million German speaking Austrians on their border (previously Bavarian
but ended up as Austo-Hungarian by marriage in 1500) than ended up in
the Sudentenland as part of Czechoslovakia. (Against the Armistice).
There if you care to check the League of nations to find thousands of
records of depracations and crimes against German ethnics. This was
not a Nazi fabrication. They were supposed to be offered a swiss style
confederation but it was clear that the Polish and Czech Nationalists
were not about to be generous and had no such intention. (The issue
of Polish East Prussia is more complcated as it appears to have been
contested for 2000 years. Roman Historian Tacitus does mention a
Germanic tribe the "Preusi" living on the Vistuala in Present Poland
then Prussia)

Notably Tyrolean Austrians forced into Italy but treated decently
experience no such depracations.

They, the Nazis and Germans, were concerned similarly with the more
potent threat of Stalin where even before his ascention in 1932 had
seen a Bolschevic butcher and expullsion of millions of people on the
basis of ethnicticiy.

At the end of the war for a momment Churchill recognised the folly at
one level when he said re hitler vs Stalin "Looks like we Butchered
the Wrong *******" and Patton, by then Governor of Bavaria expressed
similar sentiments.

As far as jews go, yes that was a crime. The Germans resented their
power. They made up more than 50% to 75% the doctors and lawyers in
Berlin and Vienna. They owned ALL of the department stores. They
dominated the media like they do in the USA today. Their oh so fine
marxist intellectuals mocked German attempts at cohesion in a
competitive world in which they were under attack and promoted class
warfare. Records show that soviet Secret Police the NKVD that murdered
4.5 million Ukranians were 10.8% Jewish. (Ukrain was 0.6% Jewish and
the Soviet Union 4%) No wonder so many Ukranians helped the Nazis.

They sowed the wind and they reaped the whirlwind. To bad about the
ordinary Jews right? but according to you that doesn't matter. It is
to their "eternal shame" perhaps for Jews as for Germans. You can't
have one without promoting the other.