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There are many well known ways to reduce the manufacturing costs of
composite structures. It just takes sophisticated tooling. The problem with gliders is that no one design has ever been made in sufficient numbers to justify the up-front costs of that tooling. The result is hand made, low production rate gliders and high unit costs. The big advantage of a "one-design" is not so much in leveling the playing field in contests, it's the hope that the design can be made in large enough numbers for a manufacturer to justify the costs of advanced manufacturing methods. The wingspan or whether a glider has flaps or retractable gear doesn't matter very much if the numbers are there. The solution doesn't lie in designing a small, simple glider, it lies in a design that satisfies a large number of buyers. Find that design, build it in large numbers and the unit costs can be very low. For example, how many buyers are there for a brand new LS-4 selling for $25,000 - quite a few I expect. So, how do you get it started? Don't start a new competition class, re-jigger an old one. For example, take the sports/club class and provide a handicap advantage for the "one-design". Any pilot can still fly whatever but the new design will have an advantage built into its handicap. Over time, the population of the new design will increase until a real "one-design" class emerges. If the design is popular enough and the rules guarantee the handicap advantage is permanent, the manufacturer may commit to the tooling and processes that drive down the cost. Of course, you have to have a commitment from the manufacturer that the price will follow costs down. Maybe the handicap advantage is only available to gliders whose price is less than a set figure. Bill Daniels "Shawn" wrote in message . .. Brad wrote: Hi Shawn, snip I suspect the prepreg technique used in the Sparrowhawk is in the right direction. Here is disagree. Greg is fortunate to have use of the huge autoclave at the Lancair/Columbia factory, I think. Although Out of Autoclave could be done with the right tooling and materials. But I think wet layup and vacuum bagging would be cheaper. Agreed, I'm thinking to make a big dent in glider price (I'm in the depressed Dollar US, and I *won't* buy a Chinese glider) the method of manufacturing will have to be very different. More composite manufacturers making aircraft and wind turbine parts might make more autoclave space available. Heated molds are a possibility (read about it on a wind turbine site). I suspect new composite technology is coming along all the time (not my field). A fuselage formed by winding carbon fiber tape around a male mold seems pretty straightforward, spars too. I don't know if a wing could be made with a precise enough profile in this way, interesting thought though. I know there are specialty companies applying all sorts of new composite technology. Farming out rather than investing in house might make a lot of sense in the small numbers world of sailplane manufacturing. Save on tooling, benefit from the sub's economy of scale. Certainly not business as usual in the glider industry. snip P.S. Sorry that this is so disjointed, dinner's ready :-) mines on hold.......had to take a dog to the vets...... Hope the pup's OK. Had to do this three weeks and four stitches to the leg ago. Shawn |
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