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Dan G wrote:
On Dec 27, 7:01 am, Steve Davis wrote: At 21:49 26 December 2007, Brad wrote: Soaring in America needs high altitude high capacity winch launch locations, We need enough glider pilots concentrated in specific geographic areas to justify a high capacity winch launch operations, sort of a chicken and egg problem. I've always wondered why no-one in the US has imported a Skylaunch kit sans engine and fitted it with a locally-sourced engine and transmission. That would give you a powerful, controllable winch with a reasonable outlay. I'm trying to pull together a syndicate to do precisely that. The economics make it difficult to justify for existing clubs and commercial operations, which were structured and located based on the (past) availability of low cost aero tows. Importing a Skylaunch kit and completing it wth locally sourced engine, transmission, etc., still costs around US $80K, or roughly 2.5 low time Pawnees (or 1 Pawnee, an engine, and a good bit of avgas). I suspect you can imagine the way the discussion goes at most clubs here... two seat trainers which are economical to buy and operate The PW6U and forthcoming Perkow spring to mind. The latter looks particularly promising with 40:1 XC performance. As both are Polish they don't come with the Germany premium. With the exchange rate as it is (and it isn't going to get better any time soon), a properly equipped PW6 with trailer costs something over US $90K, the Perkow will cost even more. Once again, those prices are well beyond what most clubs and commercial operations can readily afford or justify. and a single seat glider with launch and handling capabilities similar to the trainer so a student doesn't need to re-learn to fly so he/she can fly it. Astir; also the Junior too which is still made and designed for precisely that role, that it does very well. For a cheap "hot" (well, OK, mildly warm) ship get a Cirrus. Many US clubs now have ships like that. The problem now is that the high prices for new gliders are having a ripple effect, which means demand now outstrips supply for good mid-range ($25K to $35K) single seat gliders. There are a lot of gliders around that should have been refinished 10 years ago (and now can't be economically), but not as many good low cost gliders to build a club around. I think a lot of the solutions now exist, it just needs some motivated people to make it happen and then tell the world (or at least the rest of the US) of their success. I wish it was as easy as you think... Marc |
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