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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:32:44 -0700, "Matt W. Barrow"
wrote: "Roger (K8RI)" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:26:35 -0600, "Dan Luke" wrote: "Matt Whiting" wrote: And CO2 is a by-product of a warming ocean. Please refute the following point by point. :-) http://www.john-daly.com/oceanco2/oceanco2.htm What's to refute? "The sensitivity calculation, however, may be very reliable. It shows that natural temperature increase cannot be the whole reason for the increase of atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration of about 80 ppm during this century. But the question of the `Chicken and the Egg' *for the ice core measurements* seems quite clear: First comes the warming, then comes the CO2. " That has been historically true, but not this time. Now it's the CO2 leading the temp. No, it's not - sorry. Try understanding CO2 forcing action. I understand it quite well, which is why I'm emphasizing the CO2 is leading. It's the opposite of what you'd expect. IOW we are not seeing the CO2 forcing. What we are seeing is an *unnatural* rise in CO2 that is not due to nature. If you take a look at the legitimate scientific studies you will see that at present the CO2 rise is ahead of the temperature. Where did the CO2 come from? http://www.realclimate.org/index.php...an-activities/ Roger |
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