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"Matt" wrote in message ...
The UK Advanced Tanker/Transport is going to be leased because we're going through a competitive bidding process, and the end product 'should' cost less than buying outright over the product lifetime. Personally, I still think they should buy outright - if they extend the aircraft's flying life, like they've done with the VC-10 and Tristar, it gets expensive fast. Besides, we tried this with the C-17's - and because of the masses of extra time we've put on them through Afghanistan and Iraq, it's going to cost the UK taxpayer a ton of cash. The US tanker program, whilst very nessesary, is really just a sop to Boeing because they didn't win the JSF program - and it's going to cost more than buying outright even if they stick to the projections. Come on, no competitive bidding process? As far as I know, the USAF is howling that they should buy the tankers, not lease them - why, with that extra $5.6 billion, they could buy one, maybe two extra F/A-22's! *What* competitiive bidder is out there? Airbus? Which has still not flown any kind of flying boom equipped aircraft (flying a couple of passes with a fighter tucked in behind one of their jets is a long way from proving they can deliver flying boom equipped tankers in a timely manner). Boeing is the undisputed king of the hill when it comes to producing such aircraft, as nobody else has done it (caveat--McD-D did it with the KC-10, but guess who owns them now?). Selection of the 767 also offers greater future commonality (the E-10 is also going to be a 767 airframe). Check back into what the USAF wants--it *wants* (many say urgently *needs*) a replacement for the KC-135E's ASAP, not in the ten or fifteen years it will have to wait if it proceeded with procurement versus lease. I believe your read on their desires is a bit faulty. If leasing is such a bad idea, why do most commercial air carriers use this option? Why has the RAF not only pursued lease of those tankers, but also is leasing aircraft as small (and cheap) as Beechcraft Kingairs? For that matter, why is the private auto lease such a popular route? Yep, it may cost a few dollars more in the long run--but what price do you place on trying to keep those E models flying for the additional years required if a purchase option is chosen instead? How do you value the greater utility of the 767 tanker, available for use eight to ten years earlier under lease, versus those older KC-135 models? Brooks Matt "Kevin Brooks" wrote in message om... (John Bailey) wrote in message ... http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/28/opinion/28BROO.html (quoting) U.S. Air Force would lease 100 refueling tankers, modified Boeing 767's, from an entity controlled by the Boeing Corporation. This whole mess started because the Air Force can't pay for new tankers up front, so it tried to push back the costs by leasing. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that the leasing option will cost taxpayers an extra $5.6 billion, though scandal connoisseurs will appreciate that the deal also involves the use of "special purpose entities," the accounting mechanisms used by Enron executives in their glory days. Speaker Dennis Hastert's effort to ram through an Air Force tanker deal for the Boeing Corporation. This deal isn't just shady ? it's the Encyclopaedia Britannica of shady. (end quotes) John Bailey http://home.rochester.rr.com/jbxroads/mailto.html Gee, who'd have thunk the NYT would oppose something thet the USAF and DoD want? What is Hastert's big gain in this? This all looks a bit one-sided to me; maybe the NYT should go investigate why the RAF is also pursuing a tanker lease program... Brooks |
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