EU as joke (modified)

Alan Minyard wrote:

On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 10:16:38 +0100, Ralph Savelsberg wrote:



Emmanuel Gustin wrote:


"Ralph Savelsberg" wrote in message
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The stereotype would be that Americans think that 'if you're not with
us, you're against us'.


Isn't that almost exactly what George W. said -- or is
my memory failing?


That's pretty much what he said after september eleventh. I cringed when
I heard it, but then again, the man has said a lot of strange things,
which often were reinterpreted by his aides with words like "That's not
what the president said." or "What the president meant to say was .....".
In any case, dumb rhetoric is part of almost every politician's
vocabulary and after all, the US had been viciously attacked. I think
it's generally not all that hard to see through the rhetoric. The sad
thing is that some people apparently can't.



But I agree that Al Minkukel is a fool by any standard.



He's a strong supporter of his government's position and I don't blame him for that, even though I have grave doubts about that position.

However, what tends to annoy me immensely is his generalizing talk about `Europeans are this, Europeans are that', his lack of

distinction between facts and his own opinion and his apparent inability to seperate his feelings about some European countries'

political positions from his opinion about Europeans, European society, and things made in Europe in general.



In order to clarify my remarks, when I say "europe" I mean "old europe"
France, Germany Belgium, The Netherlands, Greece, Italy, etc. I do not
include the UK, Poland or the other former east block countries.

Al Minyard

That doesn't change anything and furthermore seems rather arbitrary.

You're still generalising and the Italian and Dutch governments actually

supported the US invasion of Iraq.





Further discussion obviously serves no point, since you're not
interested in discussion.
You call me misinformed, but as it turns out you yourself are hard
pressed to come up with anything other than cliches and things that are
blatently wrong (I'm referring to our discussion on the Dutch military).

It must be really comforting to be able to shut down your capability for
thought and instead simply follow the rhetoric.

Ralph Savelsberg