French planes are crap

"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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"killfile" wrote:

The Republic of Korea Air Force seem to think that the Rafale is
superior to
the F-15 and F-16, as well as the Su-35 and Eurofighter.

Considering that they're comparing the Rafale to 30 year old designs
that are in the midst of being phased out in the US, that's hardly
shocking.

The clearest thing is that nothing is superior to the *price* of the
F-22
... I'll certainly bet the six Rafales or Eurofighters you could get the
price of one F-22 against that lone F-22 in combat.

You misspelled "two" as "six."

The Eurofighter is going for $80 to $85 million each (that's what the
Brits are paying).

The F-22 is pushing $170 million each (that's the worst-case cost if we
only buy 70 of them - the price drops dramatically if we buy more, and
could have been as low as $90 million a pop with full-rate production).

No, your F-22 price is very far off.

These are _full program_ costs, not just for the aircraft themselves.

No, you failed to amortize the costs of the F-22.

So for much less capability, the Eurofighter costs about half as much
money. The Rafale is in the same price range, so there's no savings on
that one either.

No, not even close.

Don't compare airframe costs (no parts, no training, no support) in
Europe to full program costs in the US (parts, training, support).

You are kidding yourself, Irby.