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Chip Bearden wrote:
On Feb 24, 7:07 pm, Marc Ramsey wrote: The easiest way to see this is in an IGC file from an approved flight recorder. During summer months, note the relative difference between the pressure and GPS altitude at the lower and higher altitudes. As altitude increases, GPS altitude will increase relative to pressure altitude, as pressure altitude is reading too low at higher altitudes. Here in the western US, we can see this clearly near mountain peaks, as a correctly set altimeter will be reading as much as 1000 feet too low, whereas GPS altitude matches the known elevations of the peaks. OK, I'm a layman, late middle age, and little slow. What am I missing? The pressure altitude (per the altimeter, at least) is less accurate than the GPS altitude? By up to 1000 feet at Western USA soaring altitudes? In the old days, we used a start gate that evaluated optically how high we were above the ground. Assuming no one tripped over the guy wires, that actual altitude stayed the same during a contest. Now we're evaluated using a pressure-altitude-recording device that may or may not reflect how high we really are? Once again, pressure altitude and GPS altitude measure two different things using the same units. Because we like to fly when there is a non-standard temperature lapse rate, there is almost always noticeable pressure altitude error above a few thousand feet AGL. If an optical start gate is showing the actual heights, most gliders will appear to be starting high, since the altimeters are reading low, and the validity of the start is determined from the recorded pressure altitude. Those pilots who are recording only GPS altitude (GPS handhelds, etc.) need to be careful, as they start will be scored based on actual height, which means they have to start lower. They need to be watching the GPS display, rather then the altimeter, when they are flirting with the top of the start cylinder. Do the experts maintain that GPS altitude is bad because (a) it DOESN'T have the errors inherent in pressure altitude or (b) because its precision isn't good enough? It seems like I've seen both positions on this forum. As you know, experts generally maintain whatever favors their position. Look at it this way, GPS altitude is more accurate at measuring actual height, pressure altitude is more accurate at measuring, well, pressure altitude. Since one function of the flight recorder is to detect and penalize airspace incursions, pressure altitude will continue to be a consideration, no matter what else happens. Some of the other air sports, like ballooning, have already switched over to using actual height, they use sounding data and software to convert to/from pressure altitude as needed. Marc |
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