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On Mar 17, 4:59 pm, Tinwings  wrote: 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		 
		
	
	
	The P124 Aviator isn't a new design. It's been available for about 10 years. For whatever reason it hasn't seemed to catch on. Comfort might be the reason. I tried one on and there was no way that you could lay on it for any length of time. I suspect that this will be the case for any ram air parachute packed in a bag type deployment system (all of them). The deployment bag, and ram air canopy construction, simply does not allow the rigger much latitude in how to distribute the canopy material in the parachute container. The traditional round parachute with a daiper type deployment system affords the rigger much greater freedom in how to arrange the canopy in the container. The result is a much more comfortable rig to lay on. If the concern is lower descent rate, there is a round parachute that you might consider - Free Flight Enterprises Preserve V canopy. It is rated at (if I recall correctly) 254 lbs @ 180kts and has a descent rate simillar to the P124 canopy. The Preserve V is certified FAA TSO C23d and is available in the Paraphernalia Softie line of containers. Allen Silver (Silver Parachute Sales) has jumped this canopy and can testify to the low descent and quick opening. I just took my rig to be repacked today. Being a tall heavy guy, finding the thinnest rig with adequate descent rate that will allow me to fit in the cockpit has been a challenge. I currently have a Wedge Softie with a Performance Design P-235 square canopy. My previous rig was a Wedge Softie with a round Preserve III canopy that I sold after being asked time after time by my rigger if I had a desire to be a lawn dart! I will vouch for the change in comfort mentioned by Tinwings. Unlike the Preserve III, the P-235 is stuffed into the container like 10 pounds of stuff in a 5 pound sack. I thought it would be a problem in the glider but it hasn't really been that bad and I don't regret making the change. The PD P-235 Owner's Manual is interesting reading. Particularly the "Deployment Body Position and Airspeed" and Repack Cycle Sections. See: http://www.performancedesigns.com/do...rve_manual.pdf I am also working with the rigger to come with acceptable methods to mount survival gear, such as a PLB and other stuff, on the rig. The last thing we came up with was to mount a pouch on the chest strap and put everything in that. Not much room to mount things at any other place on the harness. If anyone has recommendations for making sure all the necessary gear bails out with you, please post them. Steve  | 
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