ATC

On Mar 29, 7:07*pm, "F. Baum" wrote:
On Mar 29, 10:42*am, Ed Sharkey wrote:





On Mar 28, 5:16*pm, Jim Logajan wrote:

The poster said these were ATC transmissions, not internal company
communications.

Hi Folks

I'm the guy that dropped the pebble in the pond on this one.

Now there seems to be at least a couple of occasions where the time
delay between the flight first saying they weren't ready and their
still not being ready when the controller called them back was
significant, i.e to my way of thinking much longer than it would have
taken for the crew to tune to ATIS and get the lastest information.
Indeed why would they have pushed back without the ATIS?

My thought was that it must have something to do with the load figures
and the weight/balance calcs. *And that the Tower didn't want the guy
to get to the head of the queue at the hold point and not be certain
he was ready to go.

Ed, Good explination . Ill try to clarify some more . At airports
where gate space is at a premium airliners will often push before the
final paperwork is recieved. The final paperwork consists of the WT &
Bal, flap and trim settings, T.O. power settings for each runway, max
weights for each runway , V speeds, *and WX updates if applicable. It
comes up on the ACARS and then it is printed out. ATC needs to know if
we have the "Numbers" (Final paperwork) . It wouldnt do much good to
send a plane to a runway they are too heavy for. All of this comes
from a load planner, not the dispatcher.
As far as ATIS goes, it gets printed up at the touch of a screen and
it is pretty much assumed that if a crew calls to taxi or push that
they have it. Good luck with the training.
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FB

Thanks for that. Most interesting.

I guess it gets pretty tense in the cockpit if you're taxying without
"numbers"!

What's ACARS?

Who provides the information they're missing? The company? The
handling agent?

I presume it's 'downlinked' somehow to the on-board flight computer?

Oh, and one more thing.

When the contoller says something like "Give way to company on your
left" what's "company" mean in that context? Does it mean ' aircraft
belonging to the same company as you'?

Training is going well, thanks. Just need to try to find more time to
spend with the books!

Ed