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Jim Logajan wrote in
: Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Tina wrote in news:3187509d-daec-48d6-9db7- : Bertie, you clearly have studied Sir Winston, in that you read between his lines accurately. But still, his insulting conventions are worth following because they amuse the reader. Yeah, he was a fun guy. Just ask the antipodeans he got slaughtered at Gallipoli, Actually, Kitchener was the one who had ordered the attack on Gallipoli, and the one who was most responsible for arguing against an evacuation once the attack bogged down. Yes, Churchill did fight against an evacuation too, but by that time the decision was an army one, not navy. For that matter, Kitchener was the one who sent the navy on its own to attack the Dardanelles. And the local commanders, Carden and then de Robeck, who showed remarkable lack of backbone. But there were many hands involved in creation of such a disaster. No doubt about it, Kitchener would have been hung out these days for his various roles in history. Who did what is covered in painstaking detail in David Fromkin's book "A Peace to End All Peace - The fall of the Ottoman Empire and the creation of the modern Middle East" All that said, Churchill's WWI actions do appear to have been those of an amoral pompous ass. But I think that made him one with the crowd in power at the time - he didn't appear to be any different in these characteristics than many of his peers. Oh yeah. I agree. They were a pack of Imperialist hyenas. Not sure if the word "peers" is one I'd use. not because it;s innacurate, but because it tends to gloss over the savagery of those creeps. Bertie Bertie |
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