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On Sep 4, 10:22*am, "Mike" wrote:
Lawyers get paid to defend their clients within the letter of the law. *Just because you are unwilling or unable to understand the law, doesn't mean it was broken. That's the best joke of the day! You should be a guest on Leno. Or a witness for Clinton. Lawyers get paid to win the case for their client, by any means possible. They no longer have any obligation to present the truth, the whole truth, or anything like the truth. Prior to going to court, they will say, do, or threaten anything to get the opposition to back down. Once in court, they will stretch, twist, or pervert the truth, or come up with any alternative explanation OTHER than the truth. Our courts are not about the truth any more (if ever), they are mainly about presentation and obfuscation. As evidence, I present both the OJ trials, and the Clinton proceedings. Do you have an example of a person who endured a 7 year, $100 million partisan investigation with out so much as an indictment? *You still can't come up with anything that approaches a reasonable explanation. Do you have any evidence of anyone who got BJs in the oval office, other than WJC? Unfortunately, such hair-splitting does occur. And not all things that should be get indicted. Politics on the defense is also at play here. Are you trying to claim Clinton wasn't adequately prosecuted? A 7 year investigation that cost $100 million wasn't good enough for you? Bill dragged it out? *You're kidding, right? *"Lots of his friends" included no one in his administration and none of the charges involved any Clinton business dealings. * Quite a number of "friends of Bill" were convicted. In this case, the "LAWYER" that supplied the definition (that was accepted by the court) worked for Paula Jones. The only clip I saw was Clinton saying that it depends on your definition of "is". Maybe if he'd said something like "I KNOW the definition of is, and...." Or maybe if you were more familiar with the facts of the case you could speak from a position of intelligence rather than from a position of ignorance. *The Jones lawyers provided the definition which was accepted by the court. *That is a fact regardless of any semantic nonsense you want to allege. A person with common sense would realize that it was all the lawyers and the courts who haggled over definitions. We the ordinary people pretty much know the definitions of "is" and "sex". Really? *The Jones lawsuit and the independent counsel investigation were going full swing years before the Clinton deposition. BINGO! See how he dragged all this stuff out? Had he behaved, or not dragged it all out with his lies, the investigations never would have proceeded to the bimbo eruptions and his immature antics in the oral office. I hate to break this to you, but everyone lies. No excuse. And most get caught and pay the price and learn their lesson. *If making misleading statements Lying. about an extramarital affair that was really nobody's business It became the court's business when the information was related to the sexual harrrassment lawsuit against him. Regardless of the legal twisting, it is evident to most that he did what the women claimed he did. and never involved his official functions is the worst of his transgressions, Anything in the Oval Office of the President is official business, and should be treated that way. Anyone who has an employer recognizes that whatever is done at work is related to work, and you can be held accountable. that's not too bad historically speaking. You set a very low bar for performance and behavior. "deliberately" misleading, or just "mistakely but honestly to the best of my memory" misleading. *There's a difference. Not to the USSC. *Try reading the decision sometime. Got a link? I'm in the mood for comic relief! They must be lawyers. *Whatever happened to the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Are you saying people are not entitled to mount a vigorous defense of themselves even though they are complying with the letter of the law? I support any vigorous defense that does not include lying. Any vigorous defense that involves the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, and these conditions do not include lying or deliberately and knowingly misleading. Most people learn that before the first grade; Clinton hasn't learned it yet. Are you saying that it is OK to lie in legal proceedings??????? May you be sued by a bunch of people who have your standards. *Only in the US would oral sex be grounds for impeachment. In the US, it wouldn't have been a court matter except it became evidentiary in the legal proceedings that were going on for years. |
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