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![]() "Bill Daniels" bildan@comcast-dot-net wrote in message . .. snippage Let me throw in a slightly controversial idea. Low L/D, taken in isolation, offers no benefit whatsoever in a trainer. In fact, higher L/D is a safety feature that gets an inexperienced pilot back to the runway after a bad judgement call. In spite of this, there is an instinctive reaction among most glider pilots to inversely relate L/D and safe handling qualities. In a soaring environment, I think you're right. But that is not the environment veeduber is proposing. He's proposing a cheap "hook" to capture the attention of teenagers. Teenagers who might not have two grand or so to shell out for glider lessons, but might well have some sweat equity to invest in building something that actually flies. For this target group, it has to be something that goes together pretty quickly. If it takes a thousand hours of construction, it isn't likely to get started, let alone completed. For veeduber's purposes, I think he will have achieved part of his goal if it gets even half built. Kids will be using their heads and their hands to solve problems. For this environment, it's not performance that counts, but energy. With a fairly draggy airframe, you can limit the amount of energy available to damage the pilot. Somewhere on Mike Sandlin's site, he remarks on this, limiting the energy by how far up the training hill you drag the glider. snippage "Primary gliders" were an expedient developed in an environment that lacked adequate two-seat trainers. They were abandoned with great relief as soon as usable 2-seater trainers became available. Today, there are a great number of excellent 2-seat trainers and qualified instructors. Only a fool would try to learn flying in a "Primary". I can't entirely disagree, but people learn to fly hang gliders, with similar performance limitations, every day. There is some tandem instruction available, and that's good. But in general, it's not the instruction process that kills people. A two-place primary under 155 lbs might sneak in under USHGPA's tandem exemption, here in the U.S. Maybe. Tim Ward |
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