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On Apr 16, 8:39*pm, Tman wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote: On Apr 15, 6:15 pm, "RST Engineering" wrote: YOu and I were taught by different people. *A checklist is just that ... a step by step list of todos so that you don't forget something. *It is very easy for the mind to go through a "familiar list" and be so rote that you really DID think you were on both mags when you were only on one. Jim The quickest thing that disqualified an applicant on any check flight I ever gave was the non-use or improper use of a checklist. Dudley Henriques An admittedly small sample, but I've actually never seen a professional pilot do a walkaround on an airplane with a checklist in hand. *Not even when I'm watching the A320 FO do a walkaround. *I'm sure it happens though. *I've only seen students and pilots on a checkride do that. *My instructor told me to "have the checklist in your hand but you don't really need to look at it" -- for the preflight. So -- Dudley and others. *Let's be clear here as I am curious. *Which phases of flight do you use the checklist for? _ preflight planning _ drive out to the airport _ preflight examination _ getting in and getting fastened _ engine start and post-start _ pre-taxi _ runup _ pre-takeoff _ climbout _ approaching a fix on an IFR flight plan _ cruise (log fuel, check nav, switch tanks) _ pre-approach ("WIRE") _ approach _ pre-landing / landing "GUMPS" _ clear of runway _ pre-taxi _ shutdown ("fuel not on both, master off") _ post-shutdown ("tie down, pick up your x, y, and z) _ walk-away ("hobbs, lock gate") I have a friend that would honestly "x" everything in each column. I consider myself a pretty safe pilot. *Answers for me below. *I do a lot of GUMPS, WIRE, and I use the instrument panel placards (pre-landing check, etc), in particular, but I am not thinking it is "checklist usage" unless you have the thing in your hand... Would I pass your flight test? _ preflight planning _ drive out to the airport _ preflight examination _x getting in and getting fastened x_ engine start and post-start _ pre-taxi _x runup _ pre-takeoff _ climbout _ approaching a fix on an IFR flight plan _ pre-approach ("WIRE") _ approach _ pre-landing / landing "GUMPS" _ clear of runway _ pre-taxi _ shutdown ("fuel not on both, master off") _ post-shutdown ("tie down, pick up your x, y, and z) _ walk-away ("hobbs, lock gate") I use a lot of flow and mnemonics for the other stuff tho. Tman. I both use and teach the use of checklists for any and all procedures so recommended by the manufacturer. I also use and teach mnemonics as a supplement to checklists. The trick with checklists is not to get bogged down in minutia to the point where you are checking every nut and bolt. A lot depends on the equipment being flown. Each pilot is a product of that pilot's exposure to the learning curve at any instant in that pilot's career. How a pilot views the use of checklists varies within this context. Some overdue checklist use. Some are lax on the subject of checklists. The good pilot develops an attitude toward flight safety that makes use of any and all appropriate tools devoted toward that end. How each pilot uses these tools will in large part be determined by the habit patterns that pilot has developed through the learning process (which never ends) Dudley Henriques Dudley Henriques |
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