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On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:33:38 -0500, Bob Gibbons
wrote: On 30 Apr 2009 09:30:03 GMT, Don Johnstone wrote: The performance of some gliders is badly effected by wet wings. PIK 20, Kestrel 17 and 19, Grob 103 spring to mind but there are others. The Kestrel and PIK have a Wortman Section and the Grob an Eppler. All these gliders suffer from very high sink with wet wings. Other gliders are not so badly effected, the ASW17 would climb in rain. It very much depends on the wing section as the ASW17 has a different Wortman Section. ... text deleted It has been said a number of times before in this group, but probably needs repeating for those new to the sport as ships like the PIK come on the used market. The impact of rain on the wings of the PIK is significant and easily recognized, but based on my 2000+ hrs in a PIK20B, including multiple 500K+ flights, the effect is not dramatic. You will hear this effect described by those with no experience in the type as "falling out of the sky". This is NOT the case. When encountering rain in the PIK, you can feel the separation as a low frequency vibration usually before you can actually see the rain accumulation on the wing. As rain builds up on the wings, the sink impact is probably about 20%, significant, but not severe. I have continued flight many times penetrating though rain showers. and, if the lift is strong enough to compensate for the slight sink increase (less severe at slower climb airspeeds), the PIK will climb perfectly well in the rain. I never noticed any effect in landing during rain showers, though I would add 5 knots or so to my landing speed. That said, there is no arguing with the fact that the PIK (and others with this airfoil) were more strongly effected by rain when compared with the earlier non-laminar airfoil ships, and the later thin airfoil ships. But this concern should not be a significant factor in the decision of a pilot to consider one of these older, and often very affordable sailplanes. I sold my PIK over 10 years ago, but still would have no safety concerns about flying the ship through the rain. Bob Well spoken Bob - exactly my own experience, albeit with only 1600 hrs in the PIK 20B. It is rarely acknowledged, but many other early glass ships world-wide were equipped with the same Wortman FX 67-K- 170 (150) airfoil and suffered from performance degradation when the wings were wet: e.g. Kestrel 17/19, Glasflugel 604, Nimbus 2, Mini-Nimbus, Janus, Caproni Calif, Open Jantar 1& 2, Mosquito, LS-2 (only one built, but won a world championship - Reichmann, Australia 1974), LS-3, HP-18, Zuni and several others. It is such a pity that the PIK 20 seems to cop all the flak when the subject of wet wings comes up! In almost all respects it's a great aircraft. Geoff V Melbourne, Australia |
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