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Old January 10th 04, 02:33 AM
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"Alan Minyard" wrote in message
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On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 06:14:59 GMT, "weary" wrote:


"Greg Hennessy" wrote in message
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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:57:14 GMT, "weary" wrote:





It names Eisenhower and cites the source of the two quotes which is

what

That would be Eisenhower who wasnt in the command loop for operations

in
the pacific and had no 1st hand knowledge of the losses being incurred

on
a
daily basis in Okinawa and elsewhere.


It was an Eisenhower who(as the quote notes) had been briefed by the
Stimson you refer to below and who was presumably as aware of the

situation
as Stimson himself.


and Stimson whose own memoirs put the cost of an allied invasion of

Japan
at at least 250,000 casualities.


So what - the whole point of the discussion is that an invasion was not
necessary.
Even the USSBS says that Japan would have surrendered.


http://www.paperlessarchives.com/olympic.html


Nevermind Leahy whose own briefing to truman put allied casualities at
30-35% within 30 days of invasion.


But Leahy didn't think the landings would be necessary.
"It is my opinion that the use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and
Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The
Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender because of the
effective sea blockade and the successful bombing with conventional

weapons.
"

snip.

Anything quoting Gar Alperovitz as 'evidence' clearly is revisionism


I didn't quote one word from Gar Alperovitz, but don't let facts intrude
on your rant - feel free to misrepresent me as much as you
misrepresent facts.

A**hole

PLONK


But you promised that ages ago - now FOAD.


 




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