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![]() "C Gattman" wrote What part of the official FAA documentation can't you grasp? You quoted the FAA at me but now that I quoted them back at you, you suddenly fail to grasp the point? Read it again: http://www.faa.gov/news/fact_sheets/...m?newsId=10166 "This means that the total number of runway incursion reports increased primarily because surface incidents are now classified as runway incursions." Read it again in context. Preceding your quoted section is: Quote: What is a Runway Incursion? A runway incursion is any unauthorized intrusion onto a runway, regardless of whether or not an aircraft presents a potential conflict. This is the international standard, as defined by the International Civil Aviation Organization and adopted by the FAA in fiscal year 2008. Runway incursions--again, straight from the FAA--are now categorized as A, B, C or D depending on the severity. I have offered you abundant FAA resource material to read about this yourself. So when the FAA refers to "Category C or D incursions," it shouldn't be too difficult to determine what they mean. Especially since I just confirmed this with an on-duty air traffic controller at Troutdale. You must not have made yourself fully understood, or the on duty ATC in uninformed. After your quoted section, the article you posted a link to says: Outreach to Pilots The majority of runway incursions are caused by pilots in violation of regulations and air traffic control instructions – also known as pilot deviations. The FAA completed an analysis of taxi clearances and found that more explicit instructions are needed from controllers to pilots. The FAA has issued new requirements for controllers to give explicit directions to pilots on precise routes to travel from the gate to the runway. The FAA has also issued new requirements for aircraft to have crossed all intervening runways prior to receiving a takeoff clearance. Future requirements will cover runway crossing clearances, take off and landing clearances and the adaptation of international surface phraseology. End quote This speaks to the general ways the runway incursions are taking place, and the efforts made to prevent them. You really need to talk to someone off of this group that fully understands what you think you understand, and get set right. I fear for the fact that there are CFI's out there spreading this level of misinformation. -- Jim in NC |
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