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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:
But it doesn't explain why anyone would consider the unauthorized presence on a taxiway in the US to be a runway incursion because the FAA definition of runway incursion has never included taxiways. Probably because the FAA manages to contradict itself on what constitutes a runway and a taxiway. Consider "Case 1" on page B-1 of the 2008 Runway Safety Report: http://www.faa.gov/airports/runway_s...RSReport08.pdf "Although he is not on the runway, the aircraft's nose is across the hold-short line, usually 175 feet from the runway. A runway incursion has occurred since separation rules require that a runway be clear of any obstacle before an aircraft can land or take off on that runway." So here we have an FAA document saying in the first sentence that example aircraft B was _not_ on the runway. In fact it indicates aircraft B's nose could be as far as 175 feet from the runway. But in the second sentence it says a runway incursion happened anyway because aircraft B _was_ on the runway! In order for me to make sense of those two sentences, either the definition of what constitutes a runway has to change between them or the definition has to contain a non-trivial conditional. If they said the runway was that portion past the hold-short line then their discussion wouldn't contradict itself (on the other hand, what would one then call 175 feet of pavement between the hold-short line and the runway proper in their example other than a "taxiway?") Based on the evidence so far, I have no confidence that you know (or the FAA actually has) a consistent definition of "runway," "taxiway," or "runway incursion." So if you could stop insulting others until you or they collectively get your acts together, it would be appreciated. Otherwise you come across (as you have put it) as a "wacko." |
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